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[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 119 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] blah3166@piefed.social 104 points 1 week ago (15 children)
[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't forget Kagi! (though it isn't technically comparable to the others since it's a paid, but without ads one)

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[–] HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I love Ecosia because I love trees and will keep using them until I can afford kagi or something.

But one thing that drives me through the wall.. If I search something in my native language, because I want results that are in my native language, google/bing (which ecosia uses) decides to translate reddit posts for me and Ecosia slaps them to the top of the results. Its rather annoying.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mandatory reminder: Ecosia plants zero trees unless you click on ads.

Hear hear.

Its the only website in my adblocker whitelist.

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I have the same experience and it drives me nuts - if I wanted English results, I'd search in English!

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[–] Jiral@lemmy.org 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Ecosia seems to be pushing the aI stuff hard as well, but at least you have to press the obnoxious AI buttons to get it. Still, it refuses to make those buttons optional. Duckduckgo let's you have clean experience without rubbing AI buttons or AI summaries in your face and so does qwant.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I'm sure the trees appreciate the AI sicofancy. /s

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[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Sadly Ecosia is not good for more niche topics or foreign languages. After a few months of use, I went back to Google with &udm=14 πŸ˜•

Edit: Though with Google now falsifying site titles I'll have to look for an alternative... I wonder if they do the same towards the providers that rely on them, like DuckDuckGo?

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[–] yourgodlucifer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] blah3166@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

Their old version with the 'random' option is the best way to find random, small, niche sites.

https://old-search.marginalia.nu/search?query=browse%3Arandom

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[–] imjustmsk@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago (7 children)

What the fuck are we supposed to do when the services we use are monopolies which actively seeks to destroy its competition as well as enshittify itself to a point its unusable :|

Time to start self hosting.Β 

[–] JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Time to start self hosting

There is simply no usable self-hosted search engine. There are some projects like Yacy or Searxng, but they do not have their own index. And having your own self-hosted index is kind of impossible because you need to save the whole of the web on your own devices to be able to search it.

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[–] Stiggyman@ani.social 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And pirate. Steal anything they try and sell to you

[–] Mondez@lemdro.id 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Point of order, if you mean pirate as in infringe copyright, that isn't stealing.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago

I mean get a group of friends together and start pillaging Target stores.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Time to start self hosting.

The time was 10 years ago.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 week ago

And the next best time is now. Kinda like planting trees.

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[–] Nobody@anarchist.nexus 42 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Techbro feudalists are all in on AI. They promised it would replace the human workforce and got initial investments and repeated support from money that should have been smarter then that, but the allure of firing all their workers proved too strong.

Now, they’re sitting on a trillion dollar house of cards. They’ll continue to fail upward. The correction will be delayed as they all move money between each other to cover bad investments.

At least Dutch tulips provided actual value. They could be planted and grow to be something real. LLM β€œAI” was always a scam.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago

repeated support from money that should have been smarter then that

Why would you think that? Look around, everything humanity does is absurd

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[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You guys are still using Google?

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm as surprised as you are.

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[–] Jiral@lemmy.org 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

noai.duckduckgo.com

It offers also news search as well as image and video search. Filtering out AI images. Guaranteed AI summary free.

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[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I tried looking for an instruction PDF for some stage lights the other day. No amount of "google-fu" could find the right thing. Links labeled as one model showed stuff for other models when clicked, and the god awful summary that it shoves in your face was just full of contradictions of itself. Google is warm trash water at this point.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

I find the same thing with vehicle years, I look for say a fuse box layout for a 1985 c20 truck and I will get nothing but genaric trash or stuff for 2021 model years. I used to be able to use "year" but even that has stopped working. Like how do you fuck model and year up?

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[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I HAVE HAD ENOUGH!!!!!

Goddamn fuckers just won’t stop!!!

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[–] sinematic@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Absolute pricks. "Don't do evil" they said.

AI has biases. News are titled to be biased too. This is grounds for fake news.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Don't, do evil!

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[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Wow. Thats horrible. Google has been a shitty search engine for a while now, but this is even worse.

I quit using them as my main search probably 5 years ago. But I get that most people still use it and most people will be misled.

Awful.

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[–] Fit_Series_573@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Apparently this has been going on for a while but The Verge started sounding the alarm 3 months ago. They know most people won't read more than a couple sentences past a headline if they even open the article at all. Confirmation bias is about to go wild

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Sloplines.

Breaking Hallucinations!

[–] Bieren@lemmy.today 14 points 1 week ago

Before long they will use it to just create their own sites. Their own articles. Why replace just the headline. A whole internet of just google ai generated bs. Just search something on Google and everything from there on is ai generated. All results. All pictures. The maps. Everything. Nothing will be real.

[–] 404found@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

What Google is accomplishing with this change is tighter control of their results.

This is disappointing and only serves the interest of Google.

Why is Google so determined to cannibalize itself?

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Hey, we got this new invention that kinda works if you don't stress it too much, so we don't really know what to do with it, but it's hype so we must include it somewhere prominently. Ideas?"

Like reinventing the wheel, only it's "intelligent" now.

"But we already have headlines?"

Of course that does not address the economical/political conspiracies involved here.

AI is a scurge on humanity & our environment, and so is Google. Use other search engines.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ok wait... Can I use AI to change clickbait headlines into actual summaries of articles, without hyperbole, or people getting "slammed"? I am sure googles goal is only to create more clickbait, but if there was a way to do the opposite, that would be the first good use of AI I've seen.

[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, friend of mine did that as a hobby project 8ish years ago. You can do that with just a small self-trained language model.

So, with AI as in the current RAM-sucking, earth-boiling monstrosities that are being pushed? No, it's not a valid use case for that AI because it was already solved.

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