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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

This isn't true. You can extract bark from trees while leaving them still intact. One can gather and sell pinecones. You can also tap maple trees for sap.

I like the sentiment, but the analogy doesn't work if you think about it a bit.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 4 points 21 hours ago

Also, if placed in a public garden or park, one can demand fees, leaving the tree completely in tact.

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 4 points 20 hours ago

That's not really true, but I get the intent of the claim.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

A mature oak tree is worth over a hundred grand. Alive. This is engagement bait for being wrong.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Conflicting because i really love things made of wood. Wood paneling (cedar t&g), my wood siding, nice wood furniture etc..

One good thing is it really lasts. My siding is 50 years old and only has a couple bad spots I need to replace. And I imagine vinyl siding manufacturing is horrid for the environment.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Thats not true. Once most of the trees have been destroyed we could privatize the remaining ones and charge people money to come look at them. All under the guise of "we've done everything we can to protect the trees".

[–] Damage@feddit.it 15 points 1 day ago

Parks with entrance fees exist

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago

Took all the trees, put them in a tree museum. Then they charge all the people a dollar and a half just to see 'em.

[–] Widdershins@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Welcome back my friends, to the show that never ends

We're so glad you could attend, come inside, come inside

There behind a glass stands a real blade of grass

Be careful as you pass, move along, move along

[–] Abrinoxus@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

yes i can see some smartass defender using this arg or something like "nuh uh what about tooouriiism..?"

[–] higgsboson@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

Horseshit. One can, in any number of ways, buy whole trees with roots and all. They clearly have value. Trees are recognized under law to have utility and therefore value as a living thing. Some trees lose value on being killed, others gain. Either way, OP is bogus.

[–] Blurntout@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Or saps, rubber trees and maple trees

Or useful barks. White birch, cinnamon.

[–] higgsboson@piefed.social 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Or just offers shade, or looks nice.

Those less tangible things also have value both under law and under capitalism. OP has a 4th grade understanding of economics.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Those are things of value but not commodities and are outside what I was using for examples of capitalism. Though fuckers would absolutely charge you to enjoy those things if they can figure out how to make us ;(

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

National parks and protected lands exist too. Conservation is a vital tree-reliant field.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

You say that like national parks and protected lands aren't strictly anti-capitalist concepts. Ones that capitalists aren't trying to destroy constantly and currently.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 0 points 20 hours ago

Capitalism just hasn't gone far enough.

Soon parks will have locked gates and an entry fee so they can monetize trees while they are still alive.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, a tree has value if it bears fruit or other produce (syrup).

[–] MissesAutumnRains@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's what I was thinking. I'm curious what the intended meaning is because I'm super hung up on "people sell apples/other fruit/produce".

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I would say trees growing in neat rows in an industrial monoculture orchard, or squeezed into a 3-ft strip of otherwise barren land next to a sidewalk slowly choking to death on concrete and pollution, have been destroyed in almost every way that matters. They physically still exist, yes, but trees are part of an ecosystem; capitalism kills the ecosystem and raises the tree as a zombie servant. It forces the tree to perform its profitable function, and nothing else, and destroys everything about it and everything around it that doesn't serve that function.

Zombie trees may be alive, but they aren't really living.

Or maybe we're overthinking and the poster is talking about logging and not about absolutely everything in the world that people might use a tree for.

[–] lauha@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In capitalism, things only have monetary value.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

Well then, KEEP IT IN THE FOOKIN' GROUND!!