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[–] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 3 points 47 minutes ago

Being only the 8th largest economy would rule you out as a superpower from the jump.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I’m not sure I get it… some ports can stay open all year, some cannot. The ones that can are called warm water ports. It’s a very helpful geographic feature for any country to have so they can enjoy uninterrupted shipping for trade and transport. Dude is making the case that Texas could stand alone as a country.

[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 23 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Because its an "inglourious basterds" three raised fingers giveaway that tje poster is not American, probably Russian

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/major-hellstrom-sees-three-fingers

Russians care about warm water ports because they have few of them and the ones they have are inconveniently located.

Americans don't even think about specifying that a port is warm water because they all are in the contiguous 48.

Ergo the poster is probably a Russian bot.

It's the same how certain spellings give away Yanks trying to Larp as British

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 4 points 57 minutes ago

It’s the same how certain spellings give away Yanks trying to Larp as British

Or like that fake British post a week or two ago where a guy mentioned someone hitting his “fanny.”

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

I see, thanks. I consider it a general term but I can see how it may have strong associations with Russia, especially because many Americans probably heard the term for the first time after Crimea.

[–] Akh@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Texas is a massive welfare state that lives on federal contracts

[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You’re not wrong. Was looking at this for a different reason today. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_OECD_regions_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

Texas is bolstered by their hill country tech sector, gulf port refineries and west Texas crude. The rest is a lot of prairie land and mountain ranges. What surprises me is that Texas has lower productivity per capita than Alaska (another oil rich, wide open spaces state), and Nebraska, which I can only assume one man is doing some very heavy lifting there.

Many of the more large-population liberal states have higher gdp, even with their typically higher taxes.

[–] protist@retrofed.com 6 points 1 day ago

This chart you shared identifies Texas as having the 44th highest GDP per capita out of every region in the entire world out of 454 regions, which is actually really good. It's especially good given how much rural land Texas includes, where an entire state's per capita GDP is being compared to much smaller urban regions like Luxembourg, Warsaw, and London.

[–] protist@retrofed.com 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I live in Texas. I love where I live, and also fuck this place, but either way what you're saying just isn't true. Sure, there are a number of defense contractors plus NASA and military bases operating in Texas, but between energy, healthcare, education, tourism, tech, and over 50 Fortune 500 companies, Texas's economy is actually really diverse. California has a ton of military bases and defense contractors too, because like Texas they have the workforce to pull it off

[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 1 points 11 minutes ago

I lived in Texas for 30 years, I left 10 years ago and have no desire to go back. Apart from texmex klobasnek and a few other things, I don’t miss it at all.

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 32 minutes ago* (last edited 32 minutes ago)

For people who don’t continue down the thread, here is the proof suggested by another user and found by me:

https://rockinst.org/issue-areas/fiscal-analysis/balance-of-payments-portal/

[–] Akh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You have no idea how much of all those industries you just named get corporate welfare or other federal grants. Texas is a net tax sink not payer to the federal government

[–] protist@retrofed.com 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

What is your evidence of this?

[–] Akh@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Rockefeller Institute of Government and analyses by the Tax Foundation. Texas consistently receives more in federal funding than it contributes in federal taxes. In 2023, for every dollar Texans paid to the federal government, the state received approximately $1.20 in return. This net inflow of federal dollars places Texas among the states that benefit most from federal redistribution.

[–] protist@retrofed.com 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Have a link to these? All the sources I see indicate Texas pays more in federal taxes than it receives back in aid

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 33 minutes ago

Not OP; here’s the most likely link.

https://rockinst.org/issue-areas/fiscal-analysis/balance-of-payments-portal/

And here is a screenshot of the relevant data

Texas clocks in at $1.21 receivers for every $1 sent to the federal government.

[–] 1dalm@lemmy.today 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If Texas became it's own nation, it would probably become a cross between Russia and Switzerland. It would quickly develop a highly centralized oligarchy, basically operating off of oil and gas exports, while still having good relationships with it's larger neighbors and have beneficial tax policies.

It would become a great safe place for super rich people to hide money while it's actual population declines economically.

[–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't know much about Texas. Is this meaningfully different from how it is now?

[–] 1dalm@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

The biggest difference is that the state is still controlled by the federal government. If it wasn't subservient to the US Federal government then a lot of things about it would have to change.

It would be a completely different place. I imagine it would closely resemble a Christian version of Turkey in a lot of ways.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

Nope. Pretty much all already checked off. Though those "beneficial tax policies" are only for the wealthy of course just to be clear.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

“Texas” is not a monolith. It’s like five different states staple-gunned together.

[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

Reasonably accurate. Most people don’t understand that the regions of Texas are pretty diverse, except maybe politically. The state has taken such a turn for religious monarchy in the past few years, I barely recognize the Texas of my youth. I miss the actual weirdness of Austin, the plucky Ann Richard’s type democrats, the lack of tech bros, the country feeling like the country instead of suburbs of the nearest city.

[–] EmptyAsparagus@piefed.social 2 points 1 hour ago

"staple-gunned" there is a word for that. stapled.

[–] BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 1 points 23 hours ago

The city state of Dallas-Fort Worth, home of corporate headquarters.

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They're already trying to annex counties from New Mexico

[–] 1dalm@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"They" are not.

It's just one dude and that's not going anywhere. It would require agreement of not only New Mexico (which is a non starter) and the federal government, which is equally not going to happen.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The most powerful elected official in the state, who won his election by a very clear majority, is representative of the state. I agree it's not going to happen, but it's not like it wouldn't if they had the power to.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah cross-state county annexation fantasies happen anywhere that a blue state borders a red state. They'd never happen, not only would the donor state have to willingly give up perfectly good land and taxpayers and the recipient state accept, the federal government would have to approve the change.

[–] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Half my family lives in NM, and I just returned yesterday from a month there.

No one in New Mexico wants this or even takes it seriously. All the news reports are laughing at it.