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cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/35928296

What naysayers don’t get about ‘No Kings,’ the biggest protest in U.S. history

leaders with the most prominent Trump-resistance group organizing “No Kings” answered that complaint Saturday when Indivisible’s Ezra Levin took to the stage in Minneapolis and announced that a nationwide general strike is planned for May 1, modeled after a successful local action that shut down much of that region in January

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 30 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's easy to think protests don't matter.

They do. Just not directly.

8 million people in the streets aren't going to make literal traitors admit they were wrong and willingly leave their positions.

But 8 million people in the streets sends a signal to everyone else that the opinions they already hold about this treasonous government are valid and that they are not alone.

It's a snowball effect. It'll get bigger, if we're persistent. Gotta keep the momentum building.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

My local protest had, easily, twice the turnout as June.

And a lot of Republicans were there. November is going to be a bloodbath for the red party. (Just wish it were possible to elect actual progressive Dems.)

[–] FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Don’t forget about the primaries! See if there are any progressive candidates running in the dem primaries on your ballot. Vote for them in the primaries even if you don’t think they have a shot. Even if they don’t win, a close race could be a sign to the establishment dem that things are changing and if they want to keep getting elected (to collect their bribes) then they need to change their platform. Plus every vote for a progressive candidate encourages them to keep fighting the good fight. If you have the time and resources, volunteering if also really good, but obviously not everyone can

All this being said though, yeah I still wish there were just more good candidates

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Don’t forget about the primaries!

Maybe that'll work locally, but Dems rig their national primaries.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

It's a start, but a general strike should be the goal!

[–] YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

May 1st has been announced.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I heard it’s happening after April 30th.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't wake up today with the intention of being a downer, but the odds of a general strike happening are vanishingly small.

Just not gonna happen.

Americans simply don't have that kind of solidarity or the breathing room to go without a paycheck or lose their jobs.

It's the fastest and least violent way to bring this treasonous government to its knees, but I don't see it happening. I'm not even aware of any historical examples of a general strike on a large scale anywhere.

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Probably not. I work a critical local government job. Didn't get to work from home during COVID either.

A general strike is just not really a feasible thing. Even in a country where most people weren't living paycheck to paycheck, you'd still have to worry about getting fired as retribution for taking part. And savings don't last long.

Again, I don't know of any instance of a general strike in history. For a reason.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (6 children)

It's great and important, but even a 100,000,000 person march with turnouts in every major city every weekend isn't worth a FRACTION of JUST GOING TO VOTE. All the protesting in the world won't change the fact that failure to do that has the US stuck with this for AT LEAST the next 3 years.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, but Americans are awful at voting. Maybe we'll be better at allowing things to get so awful that we turn to mass protests and violence.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 38 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I might be wrong but it doesn't seem the people protesting would be the types that didn't vote.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The amount of anti-democracy statements online is so strong, especially on the online left, I bet a lot of those protesters don't vote on principal. The irony of protesting what they helped to bring rarely hits those people.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

You may be onto something but I always feel like people who are against voting are lazy shitheads that like to rationalize doing nothing whatsoever

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

On the whole? No, I agree with you. But there are certainly at least a few, just as certain as there are some who are out there protesting now who aren't going to make their way to vote in November. People's motivations fluctuate, and it's important to remind people that protest is an extremely important PART of civic responsibility, but it's only a part.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

That's fair.

[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

In a functioning society, the public mood would inspire the Congress to change their behavior. Unfortunately we just keep voting people back in 93% of the time for no reason other than familiarity.

[–] prex@aussie.zone 12 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Downvotes? Voting really is a good idea - in a democracy.
Also credit where its due: The biggest protests in US history is a good thing.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Even in a flawed, crappy democracy, manipulating elections takes work, and the more overwhelming the voting the harder that work becomes, damaging election legitimacy, which ironically might actually lead to pressure for the changes non-voters insist are necessary before they'll vote.

Is voting a magical panacea? No. But there is absolutely NO action that can be taken that has as much impact towards goals of change in exchange for as little effort, and voting does NOT preclude any of the other actions people want to take. It's not an either/or.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world -2 points 10 hours ago

Not sure it can even be classified as a "protest" being held on a Saturday... maybe a "march" would suit the tepid impact better.

The only worthwhile thing out of this is that they are FINALLY calling for a General Strike but, after seeing how amazing Americans are at coming up with excuses for inaction, I am not holding my breath

[–] Skv@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago

Not just voting, but voting BOTH sides of the same shitcoin out of power. 33.4% is easier to achieve than 50.1, but Murkan peepol bad math.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works -2 points 9 hours ago

How many democrats in congress have voted against this administrations cabinet picks? I’ll give you a hint: it’s almost none of them.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 18 hours ago (19 children)

In before the doomers start complaining that it was a protest and not

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

A Republican representative said "it went great, we now have all their data." So, swings and roundabouts and that.

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[–] Willoughby@piefed.world 17 points 17 hours ago

Next year's will be even better!

[–] teft@piefed.social -5 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

My feeling is that like the occupy wall street movement, this one doesn’t really have an objective which will cause it to fail or peter out. Yes, people got out and said they hate trump but what did that accomplish? He’s still president and his ilk are still fucking up our democracy and will continue to do so for at least 2 3/4 more years.

[–] VAK@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago (1 children)

Umm, the objective is literally the title, no?

[–] teft@piefed.social 1 points 1 minute ago

We already don't have kings.

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