I typically want good things for all people, but I don't feel bad for people who knowingly worked for an evil company when bad things happen.
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Joke's on them for not unionizing.
Some have tried. They have a long history of suppressing unionization efforts.
Full time employees are not currently unionized, although some contractors indirectly employed by Meta are. In April 2024, the NLRB ruled that Meta had unlawfully restricted employees right to organize, including "non-disparagement and confidentiality restrictions (that) prohibited former employees from raising workplace concerns with co-workers, labor organizations, or the public, preventing them from finding support when dealing with labor disputes. These restrictions would also apply even if former employees' statements were truthful."
Who would think that a company whose site is basically a safe haven for racists and trolls at this point with no moderation would push away your average person and need to dump staff
Here in Australia, you can barely even comment on anything anymore without some tryhard being racist or abusing the government. Even worse, lots of people with criminal incitement that gets ignored
Literally saw a photo of cane toads. Some wanker commented "that's Albo penny Wong and dan andrews". There was no reason to be political at all
It's just no longer fun on there. And there is no way to block all posts by people you don't know by default from your wall
~aol.com~

That’s funny because I don’t even work for meta and I’m also fucking miserable because of it
program captures keystrokes, clicks, mouse movements and periodic screenshots […] to train AI agents capable (?) of mimicking human workflows
Question mark added. Adding insult to injury, they’ve been training their “replacements”. Can’t wait to see the whole enterprise go down in flames.
Burn it to the ground, metaphorically

How do I keep finding new clips! It's been 11 years since the show stopped airing!!!
underrated meme lol
Hang the higher-ups in minecraft
They use the Metaverse there.
Back in the day, workers used to go on strike until they get what they want. And when the cops showed up with guns so did they.
Or they'd straight up go to the boss' house, drag him out and beat him.
This were the days.
And that's the story of why you and I get a weekend.
I mean frankly these fb employees made this bed. They’ve had two decades to unionize tech like other industries who wanted to prevent being taken advantage of but they’ve all just sat back and laughed at blue collar jobs with their 6-7 figure salaries thinking they were better than that.
Well if you sow the breeze you reap the whirlwind.
Thats 8000 people with experience running social media that could use their knowledge and wealth to build the Fediverse and competitively reduce Meta's monopoly.
If even a small group of them realise the agency they have, it could be damaging to Meta, and an acceptable form of growth for the Fediverse as a whole.
I'm assuming anybody that works at Meta still now must be so signed up to their horrible practices, so i don't expect much from former Meta employees. I'd be happy to be surprised though.
8000 people who were morally bankrupt enough to work for facebook.
Thats 8000 people with experience running social media that could use their knowledge and wealth to build the Fediverse and competitively reduce Meta’s monopoly.
That's 8000 people who would use their knowledge to monetize the Fediverse by selling bots that push agendas.
I'd imagine the people they're letting go are the programmers and developers rather than the money people
8000 people with experience running social media
Is it that hard? As a programmer, I've never seen anything on Faceblerk that made me go "wow! How did they do that?"
Placement of the events page is wonderfully hard. A lot of effort must have been spent making that very unidentifiable.
I guess thats a "wow! How did they do that?" Moment for me.
I don't know, going from an almost irreplaceable social planning tool to a classified ads host is pretty remarkable. Like in the 2010s my Facebook was my social calendar. Now I can't even be bothered to recover my account to get onto the market place to buy used crap.
8000 people used to high salaries and probably living in or around silicon valley with insane cost of living. I don't have high hopes for them switching to working on fediverse projects...
Yeah, don’t expect much from the What can I be expected to do? I need a job crowd.
They will never sacrifice a moment of inconvenience or a dollar for any of us.
Is this to help them burn cash on AI a bit longer? That's how I'm taking it.
I don't get it? How can it be horrible to work for a horrible company, that has a leader with zero respect for other people?
This is probably the greatest mystery of our time!
For those of us on the outside looking in, 99% of what we see is Zuckerberg and we hate him and we think oh well anyone who works for him must be a miserable asshole. But Meta is a big place where some ~70,000 people work, and their experience of working there is not actually 99% made up of tossing Mark’s salad. I’m sure some parts of the company are better to work for and some are worse. A lot of people there have a great experience most of the time. When I’ve visited the campus it has had high energy and it comes across as a place where a huge number of very smart, high achieving young people have been assembled all together. They have more money than god. To somehow turn all of that bad is actually noteworthy.
I am not an idiot that is unaware that most people working for Meta will never even meet Zuckerberg.
But if the head is rotten, it usually goes all the way down. Because that's the hierarchy of policies and who gets hired.
Zuckerberg has zero empathy, and he will not detect and appreciate it people he hires. And this is repeated downwards.
I believe the turn of phrase is "shit rolls down hill"
Haha I didn't know that, but that's is very fitting.
You just passionately restated the exact misconception I described. Okay, I guess.
Just because it can look good on the surface when you visit, doesn't mean the effect isn't there.
You just don't see it, until you see it.
Let’s just define all the degrees of knowing anything:
- you have used Facebook.com and read a bunch of headlines about Mark Zuckerberg (this is 99.9% of people and certainly almost everyone in this thread).
- you work in the same industry as Facebook so you hear things and have some frame of reference for them
- you work in the same industry and have actual friends who work there
- you work in the same industry and have friends who work there and have visited on site
- you have worked there yourself for a brief time
- you have worked there for a long time
- you have worked there for a long time and other places in the same industry so you have a frame of reference
So yeah. I’m not a #7, just a #4, but this is a few degrees past #1
But my point is not to argue that I know so much, just that the vast majority of people who think they can see everything from a million miles away are full of shit. They don’t know what they don’t know. I don’t know everything, but I at least have a sense of how much most people don’t know.
I have never used Facebook, because I actually read their terms of use. And they were disgusting from day 1.
But that absolutely doesn't mean I don't know about the company. I'd argue that working in the company only marginally increases your knowledge of it from a personal anecdotal experience, that may even skew your perception of the company.
You can't understand a company, just by being inside and be 1 of 70000 employees.
I'd argue that already early on I knew more than many that worked there, just by actually reading their terms, and understand the mindset behind them.
I also have the age and experience to have followed Facebook and Zuckerberg, and his appearances before congress, the fines that have been issued by EU, and many other things where it has been proven that Facebook is a shitty company.
For instance their role in the first election of Trump, and cooperation with Cambridge Analytica.
Generally a company that is total shit towards customers and children and even authorities and a population as a whole, and displays a shitty personality in general, will also be shitty towards their employees when it counts.
I knew more than many that worked there, just by actually reading their terms, and understand the mindset behind them.
Yeah okay, guy. You know more about it than people with direct experience. In fact their direct experience only clouds their minds!
You have a dangerous kind of arrogance. The kind that makes you think you know what’s best for others more than they do just by your piercing insight.
You also patently don’t understand how to read a TOS. They are by design incredibly over-reaching and self-interested to the exclusion of the rights of others. This is a legal fiction they reserve in advance so that no matter the eventuality, they can claim you agreed to it. It represents the uttermost limit of what they can imagine. Not the center of gravity of what it’s like to work there.
Anyway, I don’t need to hear more about how your insight penetrates the world from the comfort of your chair.
Again?!
Imagine ... 8000 workers at the company doing as much damage as they can. Fucking up software, deleting backups, luigiing EOs, accounting just transferring the company's finances to all of the workers.
It would be the most beautifully orchestrated chaos in centuries.
In my 25 year career as a programmer, a majority of my coworkers did that kind of stuff just by showing up.