I like it here. You must go to some weird instances.
Unpopular Opinion
Welcome to the Unpopular Opinion community!
How voting works:
Vote the opposite of the norm.
If you agree that the opinion is unpopular give it an arrow up. If it's something that's widely accepted, give it an arrow down.
Guidelines:
Tag your post, if possible (not required)
- If your post is a "General" unpopular opinion, start the subject with [GENERAL].
- If it is a Lemmy-specific unpopular opinion, start it with [LEMMY].
Rules:
1. NO POLITICS
Politics is everywhere. Let's make this about [general] and [lemmy] - specific topics, and keep politics out of it.
2. Be civil.
Disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally attack others. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Please also refrain from gatekeeping others' opinions.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Shitposts and memes are allowed but...
Only until they prove to be a problem. They can and will be removed at moderator discretion.
5. No trolling.
This shouldn't need an explanation. If your post or comment is made just to get a rise with no real value, it will be removed. You do this too often, you will get a vacation to touch grass, away from this community for 1 or more days. Repeat offenses will result in a perma-ban.
6. Defend your opinion
This is a bit of a mix of rules 4 and 5 to help foster higher quality posts. You are expected to defend your unpopular opinion in the post body. We don't expect a whole manifesto (please, no manifestos), but you should at least provide some details as to why you hold the position you do.
Instance-wide rules always apply. https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/
It was asklemmy@lemmy.ml
big mistake
blocking lemmy.ml will make your experience a lot less hostile.
the majority of crazy people on lemmy come from there and a few other extremist instances.
I don't use Lemmy much anymore nowadays because of this. While it's important an alternative to Reddit exists, so I try to support it, it ironically feels more like a hivemind than Reddit does (ironic because you'd expect the opposite for federated services). I think it's because switching to Lemmy from Reddit requires either idealism or a Reddit ban, both of which disproportionately attract people who feel good when they verbally attack internet strangers for disagreeing with them on 1% of the implicitly agreed upon joint viewpoints. It also strangely reminds me of the feeling I got being part of an old gaming community that was slowly dying out, where eventually only the unpleasant ones who defined their identity based on it were left.
I'm always happy to see there are also people here who dislike this attitude, though, or even to see neutral posts. There is still hope!
Ah the ever elusive hive mind always gets brought up when people disagree with you. And it always changes funny how the hive mind can have contrasting opinions depending on who is divining it.
the hive mind on lemmy is pretty easy to see. a lot of communities here straight up are based on hive mind thining and loudly declare themselves as such.
I never thought 'reddit' as a whole had a hivemind, but on various subreddits there was obvious clear consensus on various topics in the community, some of which were objectively stupid and wrong or a form of collective bullying.
at least on lemmy people are blowing up my PMs with insults, on lemmy they have the decency to do that publicly in a thread.
I'm agreeing more with this every day. Just yesterday some guy made fun of a genuine and reasonable concern I had then made of me again sandwiching in an "apology", and when I told them it still seemed they were making light of it, they flipped the fuck out and told me I would die alone among other completely unnecessary and inappropriate insults.
I mean, I get overreacting sometimes, but it kinda feels like some days half the people you interact with are either actively shit humans or are having the worst day of their lives. I wish you could feel at least safe enough to challenge a viewpoint without some dickhead coming for your jugular. It's pretty pathetic and I've gone through several rounds of wondering if I want to be here or not. I've definitely had to block a lot of people in order to stay.
I have been called a Nazi and zionist for literally no reason. Once I responded to a comment from someone saying Nazis aren't human to say "I hate the things they believe and do, and I think they should be punished harshly for their crimes, but they are still indeed human". You would've thought I said "Nazis just have an opinion and do nothing wrong," which of course I was not even slightly hinting at or thinking. I was told I was a Nazi sympathizer who should kill himself. Then the zionist accusations will come at the drop of a hat. I literally think Israel is evil yet if I say something as innocuous as "trump is hurting Gaza even more than any Democrat" that makes me a "sHiTlIb zIoNiSt". I'm probably in the left-most 15% in the US. And yeah I know that's not saying much globally but how about we understand that people live in a context and you cannot scream them into being on the exact same page as your own personal politics? People can be so self righteous it's painful to think about. It's really taxing to my mental health when I think "this space where I relate to people more than anywhere else on the Internet is also full of people who will wish death or suffering on me if I mention one thing they don't like."
You're a decent reasonable person.
A lot of lemmy users, especially the .ml nutjobs, think that makes you a horrible person. They are extremists and only support other people who support their extremist views, including the use of violence towards those who don't agree with their political opinions.
Is there a reason why an instance with so many people has the most dikheads?
Yes, because the instance(s) themselves are there to promote their beliefs and serve as safe havens for them. Just like the one you are on is about promoting books and writers. But they come into generalist instances and act like dickheads because they can't help themselves, and/or unsuspecting folks post in their instances and they lose their minds.
Are you upset because your stupid question about trans women got you roasted?
You were a fucking dickhead and you can't accept that people held you to account
As I mentioned so many times in the post itself, I didn't mean any mockery towards anyone. Read the entire post
I asked it because I saw it in a debate and wanted to dig deeper. If I'm being supportive of something I want to make sure I absolutely know what I'm talking about.
A lot of people even provided me with some really good answers. I wasn't roasted. Idk what you're talking about man.
you can't talk politely about trans things on here because of trans rights extremists will come out and harass you, and try to get you banned.
they think even asking questions or trying to understand trans issues is VERBOTEN.
there is also several instances of blahjzone, which is where a lot of the trans extremists hang out and come from.
The idea that contrarianism is somehow interaction is similar.
I've frequently had people start replies with "I strongly disagree" and then proceed to say the same thing as my comment back at me.
Some people are just fighting a war in their own head.
Yeah I've seen a lot of that. And a lot of people use the internet for a soap box for their personal emotional issues and seem to think strangers are supposed to coddle them and hug them for doing so... it's weird.
I would go so far as to say it may be worse.
For example, there are certain people on Lemmy who hold very strong opinions on subjects and try to shoehorn in that opinion even where it is not appreciated. There are even more of those sorts of people on Reddit, but they are diluted by a much larger user base that knows how to act right.
Sure, there are those kind of users, but have you tried Linux at all?
No. I only console game.
The Lemmy userbase is human, which is more than I can say of Reddit's.
The bots are showing up heavy in the last few days. It annoys me greatly since it dilutes the quality posts in my feed that generate discussion. It's a bunch of shitty memes and cartoons and it's awful.
Good thing we can just block it and get our feed back.
Yeah I have noticed a ton of posting here that reads like it's an edgelording 12 year old, that is either really stupid and then attacks anyone who replies to their stupid post with facts and reasonable replies. Often with a extremist/insane take or a really inane and stupid one.
That wasn't happening in '25 that I really noticed.
There is way more "I'm 14 and very edgy and very badass" vibe here.
Yeah Lemmy has fewer layers of irony than Reddit does. I feel like reddit was more like that in the old days, but years of mockery buried that energy.
I miss ironic weird reddit communities. Like all those super weird spacedick types of random nonsense.
It sucks that you can't be random and weird anymore, without someone trying to get you banned because they have no sense of irony or human and take everything as a literal truth.
Like I'd love to make random community that is about what sandwiches you'd like to have sex with, but sadly you can't do that in 2026, because people would take it as a real legit thing, and then probably argue it's sandwich abuse because sandwiches have feelings or something.
I disagree, Karl. Zionists are out of effing control on reddit today, and they pollute threads with denials of whats clearly shown in the news, or else make wild claims without evidence.
You are of course, wle come to your opinion, but what you are saying makes no sense to me.
I just had a guy here tell me that shooting civilians in Israel was OK, because there are no Israeli civilians.
The anti-semitism here is effing out of control.
The prevailing theory here is violence is good as long as it's down to the 'bad' people and it's wrong if it's done against the 'good' people.
With total ignorance of the fact... this is the same rationale that is causing the genocide in Gaza.
Then people scream about human rights or whatever, and fail to realize that they apply to everyone, not just who they think is good.
"By fighting Nazis you are just as bad are the Nazis, because violent bad"
Yes, you are. Especialy since you want to exterminate anything remotely that looks like a Nazi.
You have no interest in actually defeating nazism or real nazis. You just want an excuse to bash heads
Just like the Nazis do. It's almost as if you, just like the nazis you hate so much, cosplay as a tough guy on the internet to make yourself feel good... you are not a hero fighting evil in the world, you're just another hateful douche bag looking to blame someone for your problems in life.
How do we know you aren't a Zionist?
you can read my comment stream and its pretty obvious.
sounds like something a zionist would say.
I don't know why one would expect Lemmy to be different when it's entire userbase consists of ex-redditors.
I don't think there's much difference between platforms. Everyone is performing to either get pats on the back or to stirr up something. The moment everyone around you seems nice is when you've entered the echo chamber.
I just want headpats
Agreed. And as this platform becomes more popular I'm getting more and more unnecessarily snotty comments and responses and posts being pulled down. Reddit - rinse and repeat
My favorite is if you fight back them they just tell you that you're lying and wrong and they know the TRUTH. And you are an ignorant fool who supports fascism and pedophilia if you disagree with their stupid and awful takes.
It's like arguing with a toddler equipped with buzzwords they think make them win by default.
It’s crazy how I immediately knew you were the problem here just by how you wrote that screed out.
It's ok. I block people from dbzer0 frequently, because all your users are massive hypocrites who see the world through a weirdly exaggerated and distorted lens. Someone explained to me awhile ago that you're all wannabe fascists who cosplay as anarchists so you can feel 'not like the other fascists' and it made total sense given the takes that come from your users.
like calling three sentences a 'screed'.
When you say shit like "I can't walk down the street without being bombarded by trans flags or talk to people without them mentioning trans rights" and "LGBTQ+ people are 100% pro harassment" you will rightfully be called out and shouted down for the hateful shit you spew on Lemmy.
I'm anti being a hateful asshole. But that makes me a hateful asshole in the views of LGBT extremists online, and IRL sometimes, because you think the world is a binary of 'for me, or against me'. And what you fail to get is that most folks, simple don't give a fuck about it, and that's fine.
Lots of LGBT+ people are assholes dude. If you think they aren't you are just deluding yourself and you're probably one of the LGBT+ assholes who thinks their 'views' mean they are justified in being hateful and harassing others, because you know, some people do it against you. And if you think anyone who calls out LGBT+ activists for their extremist and zealotry, is anti-LGBT, yes you are one of those same hateful LGBT+ assholes.
I've been over to blahj. Huge amount of their comment is just rage bait and hate bait. It's not activism, it's an echo chamber.
Ironically, if you said "I can't wait down the street without being bombarded by Trump flags" I don't think you'd consider that a hateful comment, right? It's almost as if... having grandstanding political nonsense being shoved in your face is fucking weird and off-putting to people who don't spend every waking moment agonizing about it.
But yes, please continue to lecture me how awful I am for not being on your side. Just like people on Trump's side think I'm a pro-trans homo queerio for not being on theirs. It's almost as if I want nothing to do with either of your extremist camps that are largely populated by people with massive victim complexes who only find joy by being miserable sacks of shit because they refuse to take responsibility for their own lives... who only see the world in binaries.
I'm starting to conclude that social-media is addictive precisely because the people we interact with trigger us and piss us off.
If I want a rational, polite, and balanced discussion and conversation, I use AI. It's not perfect, but it's clearly a superior communication compared to people on any social media platform.
So why am I here? Complex emotional reasons that make unpleasant interactions compelling (and addictive) and a deep-seated desire to have my worst views about humanity confirmed.
I've used this platform for 24 hours and I'm already thoroughly pissed-off by its users and the abusive way they communicate: Lemmy delivers.
Social media use is masochistic.
I use AI.
