Can I get an electric vehicle without giving up my privacy or autonomy?
this post was submitted on 13 May 2026
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Not in the United States, no
Pretty important reason to not switch to electric if you ask me.
You cannot currently get a new modern car without tracking, ICE or BEV. It’s bonkers.
I'd like to say just snap any antennae in the vehicle. Or, Faraday cage it. Or if you're really creative custom car OS. TempleOS comes to mind.
Likely to render the vehicle inoperable until fixed. Electric vehicles seem particularly vulnerable to service denial for any reason a company or government might decide.
Possibly soon-ish. The Slate Truck has nothing in it to track you. … it doesn’t have much in it at all. Which makes me love it more. https://www.slate.auto/en
I really hope the slate works. A no nonsense EV (or really any car) is so appealing. I just worry that it's cost will end up pushing people away. They were really banking on the EV tax credits to bring the "price" down
Yeah, me too. I like to think there is enough interest in the simplicity of it all. It seems the people sick of all the tech infused everything is growing.
Funny how American mega corps force their way into developing nations using political bullying and destroy these nations smaller businesses with uncompetitive practices but they don't want to risk competing with any foreign company on their own turf
Just a friendly reminder BYD defiantly put an Elon style god mode and wireless networking into these heaps.
Here's hoping the backdoor is exposed in a way that is funny like bitlocker and not tragic like the CCP ripping off the CIA
I’m not familiar with the Elon style god mode, what’s that all about?
biden needed to protect the nazi elon's business interests. We had to have tariffs.
Remember when Gorbachev visited a supermarket and “it led to the downfall of the USSR.”
We can only hope that Trump will visit a Chinese EV lot and realize the superiority of the Chinese-Communist economy and way of life.
Trump is only interested in Trump. Trump goes to countries to cut deals for himself. Trump is only interested in making money for himself. Trump literally said he doesn’t think about Americans at all. He said finances but we all know what he meant. He doesn’t care about Americans. He only cares about himself.
To no one's surprise...
We will get Chinese electric cars in the USA when Xi pays Trump more to bring them here than Elon pays him to keep them out. He already laid the groundwork by systematically kneecapping domestic electric programs via his signature racketeering style, knowing he would make more money in the long run fire selling our car market to China than he could ever steal from the domestic market.
Ever been to a Goodwill Bins store? The Art of the Deal was forged in the fetid pressure of the piss-soaked remains at the bottom.
The issue is that US car mfr execs will get less bonuses if they choose to compete with BYD. Its easier to tariff Americans than give a few CEOs a salary cut.
Mary Barra gets all kinds of shit and pressure to resign for saying she believes EVs are the future, despite cutting way back on GMs attempt to build them
Mary Barra’s pay hits a record as GM hands $40M package to rising exec
Yeah sounds about right
You mean the EVs that were just found out to be mostly made by slave or slave-like labor? Yeah I bet.
Like the US factories that have mandatory overtime and if you don't meet the requirement you get fired? 6-7 days a week and 10 hours a day.
Source?
Edit: Just for clarification, "trust me" is not a source.
Don't get all high and mighty. Companies making cars in the USA have been busted numerous times having children as young as 12 working in the factories.
No one reads my fucking other comment I guess.
That’s just how threads go on forums like this. People see your original comment, but replies you make to other comments may get buried. If you want everyone to see your other comment, make it an edit to your original.
I really don't care, starting to dislike this place anyways. I post something personal and get zero replies, I post some dumb shit about Chinese cars and get 80 replies. Meh.
Ok, well you seemed confused and upset, so I was just trying to help. Hope you feel better today.
Got any source on that? The EV lines are nearly 100% automated.
I'd be as concerned about BYD reliability as I would be with Tesla. And, Tesla isn't great.
With consumer product competition being a race to the bottom for nearly every product now, I think my concerns are valid.
Al my friends and I have BYDs. 100k km each of us and 0 issues. Heck in fact there are a few ones out there with almost 1million km and still going.
I can find fault in any product made so when someone says “0 issues” it really discredits them in my opinion.
The most common issue for BYDs specifically is tires that need to be replaced more often than non-EV drivers expect and optional safety features usually missing from the lower end models.
Most EVs are dead simple compared to ICE cars; when you have literally 100x fewer parts there is a lot less to go wrong. This is especially true when you're not trying to introduce FSD or other superfluous features because you want to be a 1980s cyberpunk villain industrialist.