ooc how normal is it to allow a child / younger sibling to win a game? My parents always said you shouldn't do that because that's not how the real world works then my siblings told me I was dumb for not being able to win and that this is why no one wanted to play with me (I was the youngest). When I grew up and heard stories of people letting their kid or little sibling win a game I thought that was wild but I don't actually know what the true incidence is. It's one of those things where I wonder if I'm oversensitive or if that was truly abnormal. My older sister also used to tell me I was a psychopath a lot while growing up but I'm starting to think she might have been projecting.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

ooc how normal is it to allow a child / younger sibling to win a game?

It's normal.

I figure that folks who play a competitive game with friends with any regularity either know they have to agree to some kind of appropriate handicap for the more advanced player(s) - or just don't realize that their regular match mates are doing it for them in some way less formal way.

Lucking into a perfectly matched opponent, who stays perfectly matched, happens, but is vanishingly rare.

An appropriate handicap is by far the best way to attract new players to a game. Modern games have built-in rules that explicitly acknowledge new-player mechanics, but older games tend to just have informal traditions for it.

Since I love to play games with folks, I often apply all of my skill to strategically coming in second place, with as close of a margin as possible.

People who notice me doing it don't tend to mind, but do usually try to punish me for it by destroying that narrow margin I'm trying to achieve. In the end, we still end up fully competing with all of each of our skills applied, which is great fun.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 2 points 1 hour ago

I split the difference by giving them a material advantage. The real world is full of those so your parents can approve. When the kid with their 16 pieces can beat me with 4, next game I get 5. They know the game is rigged in their favor so their is no BS ego inflation, but they sometimes get a little taste of victory. If they get cocky I'll say "oh, so I get two more next game?" or something along those lines to further keep that in check. This is also pretty good for me since it forces me to think harder, run faster/further, sword fight multiple tiny people at once, etc...

[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 9 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

You lost to a 500 player just because you blundered your queen? Smells like someone is not a 3000 rated player

[–] socsa@piefed.social 3 points 4 hours ago

I am assuming "I am 3000" is the chess equivalent of "I bench 400."

Any stat shared online should be multiplied by 0.6 or so to get the real number.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If you blunder your queen and don't immediately resign, some chess players see that as a huge insult.

[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Not if your rating difference is astronomic. See hikaru for instance (https://youtu.be/yBAghpuH4gs)

Guy makes it to 2500+ without a queen and I believe his online rating is around 3300

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Big difference between blundering your queen and giving it up for a gambit.

For example Hikaru got the enemy king out in the open and stopped them from castling. It wasn't a free queen.

Most ~2000 players can play the standard openings. Giving up your queen for a position that you understand better than your opponent is an advantage. That's the whole point of gambits.

If I knew my opponent knew a gambit then it would be dumb to play it against them because the gambit is going to get me nowhere. The gambit turns into a standard game going into the end game and depending on the gambit I might be worse off, it's not going to give me an advantage.

But I agree with you that you should never just resign because you "blundered" your queen. That's just poor thinking.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 hours ago

I just hate reading that dumb AI style.

[–] thousandyardstare@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 15 hours ago

My dad used to be addicted to playing chess. We played together frequently for years. I was never very good at it.

I won against my dad twice out of hundreds of games played. I honestly don't know how, but I was proud of myself for years.

I haven't played chess is well over 20 years at this point. I'm just completely disinterested in it.

Tl;Dr, I'm in this picture and don't like it.

[–] makeshift0546@lemmy.today 2 points 15 hours ago

I will keep forcing my kid into stalemate until they learn the lesson to not be cocky while up. I don't care if she gets upset snatching ties from wins. (She 6).

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Least insane person on Linkedin.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

He just had to show up without a shovel, honestly. 🤌🏼

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago

I feel like my father may have done this?

I remember challenging him to a game. Then I set up The Chessmaster 2000 on the Amiga. He said video chess is fine for practice, but people should play across a board. So we did. I narrowly won. He didn’t throw shit, at least not that I could tell. But I damn sure rode that high for the past 35 years…

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now that's 4d chess.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

As in 4 digits of future child-psych bills. At least.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How is the elo hit on a 500 rated win over a 3000?

[–] msage@programming.dev 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

He never said he let him win, just surrendered a queen.

Could have easily won afterwards.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 31 minutes ago

I wonder why the kid was running around celebrating

[–] crimson_iris@piefed.social 1 points 16 hours ago

"Oh.. oh no.." -- Kris

[–] etherphon@piefed.world 6 points 1 day ago

I'm sure this will come up in the sons future therapy sessions.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://youtu.be/BFSFtR1Yunw

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Dina turning all the knights to face him is killing me.