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The following is all 100% real advice I got from a corporate worker today.

  1. We expect you to be independent as soon as you come in

  2. It's OK to ask questions, but we won't baby you through the work (aka, clearly showing all the steps. You're expected to figure out the steps on your own*)

  3. If you have a PhD It's seen as low work experience. We expect you to get a PhD on the side (which also means no pay and you're working while doing the PhD). BTW, PhDs are counting as working employees for the purpose of getting student discounts and housing. They are given salaries.

  4. Companies these days prefer to keep low headcounts and off-load the work onto interns and agency flexible workers

  5. This country is a "relationship based country" so you need good social skills (and nepotism) to get a job. If you make friends during your internship it matters more than doing a good job because then your friend will recomend you to the recruiters and the recruiters won't even bother posting jobs online.

*this is genuinely what she said. I'm not exaggerating. Imagine being at an engineering company and expecting the new hires to fucking do the thing on their own and I guess fuck up whatever experimental/proprietary/institutional/tech debt/whatever tf process you have.

This is the state of capitalism here. In any socialist revolution we are 100% going to have to destroy the scrouge known as "networking" (aka corruption). All jobs should go through a common online portal that takes anonymous applications!

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[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

In any socialist revolution we are 100% going to have to destroy the scrouge known as "networking" (aka corruption).

It's gonna be difficult to destroy the idea of "making friends" and "trusting people you know over strangers"

[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago

I disagree that networking is making friends. It's corporate speak for getting a job or benefits through nepotism or soft nepotism.

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I was kinda having fun at networking events. Would I ever ever ever ever eeeeeveerrrrrr meet PhD candidate students, literally hoping to be rocket scientists, at my local university otherwise? No way! Am I talking about things that are useful to others while I'm doing my hobbies? Maybe passingly sometimes.

Gripping and grinning isn't my favorite thing, but it's not... le bad!

[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Networking events are fun. This much I understand.

But the simple fact is that jobs are distributed on the basis of not merit or even lottery, but through how big your social circle is and how good you are at cheesing your profiles. This isn't even hidden. Everybody at career training is pretty explicitly telling me this.

I don't think jobs in a socialist economy should be distributed on such an arbitrary basis.

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I feel like you might be overlooking how terrible interviews and job postings are at determining whether people are qualified, which is another big driver of this

[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

Oh don't get me wrong. Job interviews are also mostly terrible and personality based. The whole system needs an overhaul

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

At most places of business, interviews and vetting systems are just ways to create plausible deniability; it’s not our fault the candidate we hired sucks, his resume passed the AI filter, everyone at the five interview panels he went through liked him, he aced the cognitive test we bought from that HR consulting firm that promised only the best candidates would pass.

I’m in a sort of similar boat in my job, they want to promote me into a currently open position, already interviewed me. Problem is, they can’t give it to me until two other qualified candidates apply and they interview them. HR policy is, you have to consider a range of candidates before hiring. So I’m playing the waiting game and two people will waste their time.

[–] haxboar@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

Companies that made terrible interview processes, and inaccurate job postings: who-did-this

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

I believe in us

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Pt 5 couldn't be more correct lol

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

The thread for me in this moment in time

I’m a junior civil engineer 14 months into their career.

This shit sucks. Young folks like us are the lifeblood of these dumbass firms, who charge our hours at a much lower rate while we do all the grunt work.

I’m not sure what the managers and senior dumb fucks are here for besides just managing money? They have zero leadership qualities whatsoever. First ones to throw everyone under the bus, creating an absolutely shit working environment, can’t fucking do shit that the younger guys can do while expecting that work to be easy and done in record time. Useless

It's OK to ask questions, but we won't baby you through the work (aka, clearly showing all the steps. You're expected to figure out the steps on your own*)

Oh yeah, the classic, ‘come to us for any questions’ aka do NOT waste my time under any circumstance. If you do ask questions you’re a dumbass and not fit for this firm, if you don’t we’re going to throw you under the bus for not asking question if we need to save our own hide

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I’m not sure what the managers and senior dumb fucks are here for besides just managing money? They have zero leadership qualities whatsoever. First ones to throw everyone under the bus, creating an absolutely shit working environment, can’t fucking do shit that the younger guys can do while expecting that work to be easy and done in record time. Useless

There is literally not a single fucking day that goes by that I don't experience a moment of pure, unadulterated hatred for my boss who decided nobody can take home food anymore. It's so incredibly frustrating thinking through the numerous ways it's advantageous to the business, like, having happier, healthier, more motivated workers, literally giving the equivalent of like a $3/hr pay increase in addition to saving TIME out of each worker's life as they now have an extra meal they don't need to prepare, all at the cost of: food that is being thrown away anyway and containers that literally cost a nickel each (and we could provide our own)

but it doesn't matter because the fucking middle manager pieces of shit disagree. There isn't even a counter argument, just a, fuck you!

He should be gutted

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Package up your "food waste" in plastic wrap or food wrap paper before throwing it in the designated trash can. To minimize adverse smells and raise the standard for air quality/hygiene, of course.

Yeah I mean i can sneak shit out but I shouldn't have to. It's demeaning, anxiety inducing, and it's just straight up less safe (but tbh that involves me breaking the health code cooling down a personal container in the fridge but i mean that's huge nerd shit theres no difference between my food in a container and the exact same food cooling down in a hotel pan)

Of course i also told all this to boss dipshit but he literally doesn't care that people are also still doing it anyway (oh but he cares enough to fire you if he sees it, fucker)

[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They have zero leadership qualities whatsoever.

Absolutely sucks when management is full of morons, because then who will kick out or discipline the bad managers and make them work better?

This is why we also need workplace democracy and independent hiring/review boards

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And, honestly, it’s fine if they’re morons as in they don’t know anything technical, but at least be able to corral your staff into doing the work? Don’t make it worse for them or make them feel like shit? I thought being a ‘people person’ or being a ‘leader’ was why you earned the big bucks?

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

They earn the big bucks by playing nice with the money and for no other reason

[–] homhom9000@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

Pt. 2 is correct. I hate it but it's also how we train our new members too. We give an overview of how things work, how to solve things, then start assigning work and hope they took notes or ask questions.

Some people figure it out and do great, some struggle and don't get it.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Companies these days prefer to keep low headcounts and off-load the work onto interns

This is what’s known as, violating labor regulations and breaking the law.

[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago

No. It's called "flexible workforce management strategies" and "lean operations".

[–] Blep@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I love having 2 years experience and somehow still being unqualified

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

everyone knows you need 10 years experience to be able to type some shit into google and get the same answers

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago

number 5 is why we need more serial killers

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In any socialist revolution we are 100% going to have to destroy the scrouge

A Christmas Carol but the capitalist main character is wearing makeup for an event. 9/10 good typo

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

half of those is just thinking like a porky, which is somewhat important thing to have. educating your workforce is a spend of money, so that every new worker hired is on balance tanking productivity by 10k for half a year (doing not well done job+distracting experienced workers), that's ignoring spending on hr search (it's like 5-20k), so that hiring networkingly through "i know a guy" saves money, somewhat, on the books.

I've been at my job for about 5 years now, and I kinda get the "ask questions, but not too many" thing. Questions are always good, I love answering when it's something someone doesn't know or something novel that requires a solution.

I've also had to spend so much time fielding the exact same question from the same person multiple times in a week for several weeks. At that point you need to write down the answer. When the whole company runs up against an issue, it's usually me that gets pinged too.

I do my best to either resolve the issue so the original process continues to work, but I'll usually document the fix/cause and share that. Then I still get a question from 50 people asking what happened in the same thread that I shared my fix and the documentation...