The number of people who think their opinion about someone else’s marriage or gender matters is simply astounding. I can’t believe people get to vote on this stuff.
Fuck your attitudes, give us our rights.
this post was submitted on 04 Jun 2026
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I kinda understand the marriage thing. I don't agree, but: marriage involves the state, so it is possible to find yourself under threat a violence from the state for not blaspheming your god(s) when the state changes what they consider a marriage.
4 in 10 Americans view changing one’s gender as morally acceptable
In some Islamic societies it's considered immoral for women to show their hair.
Both viewpoints are equally moronic, and have nothing to do with morality.
I swear, if the Christian heaven exists and St Peter is there at the gates, this is how it will go for those people:
St. Peter: "Let's see... It says here that you proclaimed that it's immoral for a person to change their gender because it's 'against God's plan.'"
Self-described Christian: "Yes. That's correct."
St. Peter: "But it also says that you had surgery to remove tumors and had your wisdom teeth taken out."
Self-described Christian: "Uh, yes. What does that have to do with anything?"
St. Peter: "According to your regular proclamations of absolute morality, what you're born with is God's plan... So by that logic, having surgery of any kind is immoral. Hypocrisy is a great sin"
Self-described Christian: "That's not the same thing! I just did what my doctors told me to do! They're the medical experts, not me."
St. Peter: "So if doctors recommended a person get their sex changed, then it would be OK?"
Self-described Christian: "No. Those would be incredibly immoral doctors!"
St Peter: "I see. Ya know, Jesus harshest words were reserved for hypocrites." (He presses the button and Self-described Christian drops down into hell)
St Peter: "NEEEEXT!"
Atheist: "I uh... Just tried to be nice."
St. Peter, as he unlocks the gates: "Welcome to heaven!"
Exactly spot on. 👍
What weirdos. I can understand (but do not condone) someone thinking changing gender is strange or fake, but immoral? Does their stupid book written by social conservatives in 0 AD even mention transgenderism?
I mentions the body being a temple created by a perfect god, and forbids tattooed people from being given burial rights. I don't agree, but it's not hard to find gender conformity as a virtue, and most (not all) surgery as a sin.
Right, and therein lays the rub: it's open to interpretation, and things will get interpreted differently by different people in different places and times.
Most medieval Christians believed that transgender people (not how they would have been labeled at that time, but they frequently didn't have a specific word for such people, so we'll make do) were created by God as the gender they identify as BUT were changed by the devil to the opposite gender in the womb. Gender transition was therefore putting things back they way that God intended and was fighting against the devil.
Anti trans Christians today believe it's the other way around.
And this is why evidence based policy making is so important for a successful government.
While I agree, I think there may be a limit to a morally-flexible any government can be. It's entirely possible that the goals and evidence point the government in a direction that some find immoral.
Heck, there's voters in the U.S. that would consider instructing someone on how to do a D&C an immoral act. But, the evidence is that D&Cs save lives and the government should (at least) help fund their instruction.
Separately, but also religion-related, what is "evidence"? It wouldn't surprise me to hear some people claiming their faith not only is evidence, but is also better evidence than the observations of flawed, human "scientists".
Brainwashing works. More news at 8
Down slightly??? 6% is massive
It's being entirely driven by shifts in self identified Republicans, so I don't think anyone's attitudes are changing so much as some shitheads dropping their masks. Still a problem, just a different kind of problem.