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[–] hairyfeet@lemmy.ml 91 points 1 week ago (6 children)

My local supermarket has signs saying "we will prosecute shop lifters and involve the police", but only next to the infant formula and nappies. Absolute disgrace

[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Here is the thing, the people who are typically stealing formula, diapers, laundry detergent, razors, etc. aren’t stealing 1-2 packs for their own use.

Those items are stolen in bulk by more organized shoplifters who will hit half a dozen stores in a day and literally fill carts and then resell them because they are easy to move, relatively shelf stable, etc.

Morally, I am a bit conflicted. Fuck large corpos, but large corpos take large shrink (what theft, damaged goods, etc are called) budget overages out on the stores with less hours available for employees…

So yeah, fuck big box stores and if people are stealing food, look the other way. Organized theft? Idk, hurts the employees more than the big box store

Edit: Since people are doubting what I am saying, I’ve witnessed and experienced this first hand at retail stores.

Here are some additional sources.

https://abcnews.com/US/baby-formula-targeted-organized-retail-theft-rings/story?id=13293485

https://www.tampabay28.com/news/region-hillsborough/alleged-shoplifting-ring-faces-rico-charges-after-stealing-baby-formula-throughout-florida

A simple web search of “shoplifting ring baby formula” yields dozens of results.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Idk, hurts the employees more than the big box store

Wut, how are employees hurt in any way ?

Should probably look at the corpos like Nestle's extortionate pricing of newborn supplies to the point that a black market emerges first. (And then whining about low birth rate)

[–] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

Because in some (most) parts of this world, the concept is

Privatize profit, socialize losses.

So the company gets to keep all profit during good times, but employees "solidarily pay" for the losses.

[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

If the store budgets to lose 1% of their goods to shrink, and the store exceeds that budget, then corporate will make the budget up in other ways.

When I worked retail, the largest budget item was labor. You can cut labor fairly easy to make up for shortfalls on other budgetary items, leaving a skeleton crew

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[–] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago (17 children)

Nice can you back this up with any evidence?

[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

I provided evidence to a sub comment.

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[–] hark@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm sure you could also pull up stories of the "welfare queen" by searching those words, but that doesn't mean it's as widespread or as big of a problem as portrayed.

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[–] spacegoat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Name and shame

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[–] protist@retrofed.com 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

It's hard not to steal from big box stores, all you have to do is not scan something. I don't think I'm alone in having absolutely no qualms about people doing this.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Especially on items where the pricing is predatory, which is most of them, but some more-so than others.

Recently we were setting up reticulation for our veggies. It's just a network of pipes, but you need clips and connectors and bubblers and things. Of course you have to buy them in packs of however many, but sometimes it's just a nylon clip which I'm certain cost less than $0.01 to manufacture, but a pack of 12 of them costs $5.

I get that the $5 is the cost for the infrastructure to produce, transport, stock, and then sell an item, but that also means that me not paying that $5 hasn't actually cost the vendor anything.

[–] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Someone still bears the costs to produce, transport, and stock it. You only save them the credit card processing fee (or the cost of handling cash, or similar) by stealing it instead of buying it. Even if they have insurance, insurance very efficiently charges the statistical average risk (plus overhead and profit...) to the purchasers of their insurance. Higher theft results in higher insurance costs.

If you want lower cost nylon clips, consider 3D printing, especially if you know someone that already has a printer. Because the filament can be transported quite efficiently, the environmental impact may also be substantially lower, especially for small items.

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[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 6 points 1 week ago

Im happy not to steal. But if it scans cheaper wrong, or it wont scan, it goes in my bag.

Of coirse if you see soneone else steal food. You didnt.

Im finding the constant monitoring quite creepy and the cashier is now a shorter queue. So the convenience is gone. However, the ability to identify the vegetable by picture as i weigh it os good.

Im in australia. Coming from europe, i find it really creepy thatnits nornal here to check your personal bag for theft on the way out of some shops. Id prefer digital surveillance than the same surveillance by a person. Obviously, od much prefer both.

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[–] Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago

The stores already did they math. They know how much they may lose to theft, but it was worth it to them because they could save money by eliminating employees. This is loss that they accepted long ago

[–] MumboJumbo@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That's the price companies chose to pay instead of workers. I like self-checkout, mostly because I don't have to talk to someone doing something that I'm capable of, but I know many people appreciate having a person doing it for them. Furthermore, there should be an employee immediately available when using self-checkout, but that's just my two cents.

[–] BloodMuffin@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

i like self-checkout cause it's easy to steal from

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Baist and chargrilled, ham

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

When self checkouts came around, I was a big fan. I hugely preferred it because I'm pretty socially awkward. I used it pretty much exclusively for a decade or so.

But this past year, something flipped in my brain. The rise of AI taking over everything, economy in shambles, general shit state of the world, I don't know... But now I go out of my way to avoid self check outs. I will stand in line waiting for a cashier even if there's self checkout wide open. I want that cashier to have a job. I want them to be able to afford their groceries.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My grandmother died 25 years ago, and I remember being with her at a store with self-checkouts (they had them now and then back then, the tech wasn't so different), and she kept refusing, and stayed in line for the live cashier.

Finally, after about the third request from the bubbly, smiley young woman, my grandma snapped, "I want a human to check me out! I'm trying to save your JOB, young lady!"

And the girl stopped smiling and left her alone.

[–] MumboJumbo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

As far as grocery stores go, I'm pretty fortunate. I live in an area (St. Louis) where we've got good unions for the grocery stores. Schnucks and Dierbergs are the dominant grocery stores here - both local and great union representation.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I hate using the manned checkout at Sainsbury's. No I don't want to talk about my day, no I don't want to talk about the weather.

Manned checkout at Aldi or Lidl though, bliss. Bags at the ready and try to keep up as they throw it all at you. Got Lidl+, yep scan, pay, done.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

An employer steals from you and it's a civil matter, you have to go to court and you have to follow a very time sensitive process. You get accused of stealing from yout employer, you're lucky if the cops don't immediately beat the shit out of you. Even if they do though and you're found not guilty, you likely signed a employment contract that says you won't hold your employer accountable. Regardless, our legal system is built on a century of case law that favors the employer in almost every situation.

[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Worse yet, self-checkout is wage theft when you think about it.

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[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Huh. Maybe grocery stores should hire cashiers again.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That would cost $51 billion. Can’t have that.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

That only means we have to STEAL $52 billion dollars worth of inventory to make it worthwhile.

Fuck Trickle Down Economics, let's enforce Robin Hood Economics - Steal from the rich, Give to the poor.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Aldi near me had self-serve registers for about a year, and removed them. I've seen and heard of other stores doing the same.

It seems like human workers may have some advantage over the robots after all.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Same in nearby Carrefour. A year of self service and then all manned registers again. The theft was rampant.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

The nation trying to survive is now a national crisis.

[–] bigbangdangler@reddthat.com 4 points 1 week ago

Theft will be the only thing left if these goobers get to complete their goal of squeezing the last blood from the stone

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