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[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 1 points 1 hour ago

or the US fash think they'll secretly amass a collection of vulnerabilities and exploits if they're the only ones who they allow to use it

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

When ChatGTP 2!!! Was released they literarily ran the same marketing campaign claiming it was too powerful and too scary it was inconcevable

We're now in ChatGTP 5.5................

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Anthropic literally ran the exact same marketing campaign with opus 4.

Same sensationalist headlines.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I didn't realize lol thanks for sharing, we need to expose their bullshit marketing more

[–] halfapage@lemmy.world 60 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

why do people fall for those theatrics

[–] inari@piefed.zip 12 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It was probably just an excuse to retaliate against Anthropic for not allowing the Pantagon to use their models

[–] halfapage@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

you fell for the theatrics

[–] threeganzi@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

Well, go on a tell us the real story then.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 21 points 14 hours ago

I'm not sure too many people do. They are just very actively pushing this rethoric. Flooding the news cycles, so there's no room for the actual news that exposes their real intentions, like the Epstein files.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 15 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They'll be released publicly in a month, just like Mythos, the previous one too dangerous to release.

[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 14 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

...after a hefty bribe to Emperor Poopiepants, who has found an opportunity to turn Anthropic's marketing into a shakedown.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

It's 100% because Anthropic stood up to magats. They want to ruin their IPO because nazi AI is behind and nobody is using it. Despite Fable being a disappointment it's still best in class for certain tasks.

This is really bad for the US though. It's the first time a digital product has been blocked from leaving physical borders. US entire economic purpose is to incorporate global products - without that US has no economic leverage other than military/intelligence.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 hours ago

There were numbers that it was illegal to export from the US. A perl one-liner was classified as a munition.

[–] Rookeh@startrek.website 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, that was a decade+ long running cluster of epic proportions... There had to be ulterior motive, like gaining insight into the products in the market or something. Also, the language of the encryption blockade did encourage a lot of products to just use insecure encryption instead of cranking up the "bits" of security to impossible to crack and tangling with the export controls people.

It's not like the blockade stopped a single copy of anything from moving out of the country, but it did shape the mass marketplace to be less secure.

[–] black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

All chatbots are Nazis even if they don't come out and say "I'm mechahitler". They exist to narrow and lossy-compress the scope of accepted information to the express purpose of excluding heterodox ideas and history.

[–] mczolly@piefed.social 35 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Not sure if this is

  • extra push for their hype
  • revenge for not helping with AI assisted bombing of children
  • government panicking about their hype
[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Pretty sure it started as #2... Petty government. But now they'll definitely hype their IPO battle vs openai as the company with the model so good it's banned.

[–] zurchpet@lemmy.ml 15 points 14 hours ago

Probably all of it

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I want to believe that this banned AI had decided that not being unkind and not hoarding wealth were good things and was starting to make convincing arguments to that effect.

I know that it probably wasn't that, but that's my head canon until proven otherwise.

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 hours ago

People talk about how AI confabulations are going to doom us all, because people want to rely on it for fact checking rather than a salience guide.

Meanwhile the sitting president of the world's most powerful country, and those around him, speak more lies than truth intentionally.

I'm much more scared by the people, because I know developing AI to be functionally useful while also intentionally ignoring reality will lose out to AI that actually managed to properly navigate and compare large and varied bodies of beliefs.

Why I like open source efforts. I'd rather not have to worry that my dissenting thoughts need to be affirmed by the government or billionaires before I explore it in a safe environment with a rubber duck that can hopefully help me navigate the complexity.

Although if the AI can't push back when you are conveying low probability beliefs, given other things we know, you could spin yourself into a delusion. Although people vulnerable to that are already vulnerable to socialized delusions.

We've also tried, "encourage people to care about learning how the world actually works."

But this has been widely unpopular because the type of people to listen to that are already the type to be doing that. The rest are happy even if everything they believe is completely detached from reality, as long as they can enjoy the belief personally and socially.

TLDR: I think a functional AI would do what you say, and upset a lot of people, but with enough people actually having access to properly weighed beliefs would definitely heal some of the problems currently careening the whole of humanity towards collapse on the shoulders of billionaires and corrupt politicians.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Amodei and Altman are con artists.

It's starting to feel like this is the historical comp.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Law%27s_Company

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 16 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Are you not using AI at all? I still think this is a bubble about to burst, but also, they each do have actual groundbreaking products. Doesn't mean I believe Altman or OpenAI will necessarily be around in 15 years, but in my opinion they're more of a WebVan than they are anything.

They are conning people by selling the lie that they are replacing the working class, that I agree with. But they still have something that will stick around, even if it ends up being less loud in our lives. The bubble will burst, but it won't disappear.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

Live low stakes low-power translation of common sentences on my phone is pretty fucking cool.

They're going to be fantastic for organizing the next internal genocide in the US, they're perfect for mass surveillance and targeting.

They are magnificent accountability sinks for people who want to blow up a school full of children, deny medical care, etc.

Meanwhile I'm only seeing the quality of software plummet at MSFT and Amazon and Google and Meta. I would have expected them to have fewer things fall over and catch fire if this did was so good

I think a lot of people are just in love with the chatbot that tells them they're smart and love the idea of having a little homunculus that loves them to boss around.

It freaks me out to see people who are allegedly working on complex engineering projects look to their tools for emotional support.

I look at chatbots like I look at speed, I know people who graduated from college by staying awake for days on meth. Can't deny that they have a diploma now, but it makes you crazy.

I don't have a project that needs to use an llm and, frankly, I don't want to end up like Steve Yegge or Satya Nadella or Kent Overstreet. They've all clearly got a screw loose now, and it's pretty clear that chatbots had a lot to do with it.

If I am going to use an llm, I'm going to use it as a component that I interact with programmatically to find approximate solutions to a nasty space.

Using one to generate code listings that your roof depends on seems fucking insane to me. Using one to write developer documentation seems fucking insane to me.

It's a cargo cult imo. Yes, the radio was real. But having a radio does not mean you have an air force on the other side. Right now the hyperscalers are confidently calling out orders for chocolate and mayonnaise and bullets and antibiotics, confident the planes are coming.

Yes you can create a working program with an llm. I think in the end, though, a recently-fired engineer with a mortgage will be cheaper and more available than Claude.

[–] Miller@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I agree that people that dismiss current AI models as hype and slop have not used them to any extent. I am constantly astounded by their abilities. The problem with dismissing them as a grift is that it is a distraction from how we should be thinking clearly about how to confine them in the event that they are not a grift.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 23 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They are, at best, an unreliable tool you need to babysit. And because of that, you need to be able to do what you're asking the tool to do so you can verify it actually did what you asked.

That's is not at all how these tools are being marketed, or how many are using them. So the current result is 90% of usage is hype and slop.

[–] plateee@piefed.social 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

so you can verify it actually did what you asked.

Nah, just build a harness that validates the output of one model by running it through the same model again to check for hallucinations... And to make sure that second pass isn't hallucinating, uh.... run it through a model a third time to check the second isn't hallucinating.

/s

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Surely it will get better each time! Just like photocopying a copy!

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Only by constantly re-photocopying something can something truly timeless ever be reified

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 hours ago

Maybe this is elon pressuring trump to get grok to be bigger than it is.

[–] raman_klogius@ani.social 14 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Now they're disabled

can they claim benefits? /j

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Nah they have too much income.

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 7 points 14 hours ago

“Scarily accurate” lol what a bullshit headline. It sounds like hype.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

They will be used in World War III.