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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Where is the line of "no AI" exactly?

While the game certainly isn't vibecoded, I would bet some Pocketpair devs used an LLM for a Python script, to figure out something in documentation, to point them somewhere over an error, maybe some Windows issue; you know, utilitarian things.

Artists likely use oldschool ML models in their graphics software, without even knowing it. Or maybe when processing textures to finish them. Or to search through assets, or documentation.

I'm just saying, if you're strict with the definition, it would be really hard to block an entire dev studio from all "AI." It would almost certainly seep in from casual use, legacy integration, or "oldschool" things like image recognition and processing.

It doesn't mean they have to vibecode or ship slop assets, of course. When they say "no AI," that's what I hear, and exactly what I want.

But I think studios, especially larger ones, need to be careful about labels like "100% human," lest something come to light that seems to contradict the guarantee.

[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I imagine by “AI” they mean strictly LLMs from OpenAI and other related sources. It’s more or less a consequence of the term being used as a catch-all by marketing teams even if it’s misleading.

They’ve for sure used machine learning tools in their development process, I have no doubt about that. I mean, that’s literally what code completion is. That’s been a thing for much longer than LLMs though, and it’s really only a supplement to the actual intentions & efforts of the devs using it. Stuff like that is useless if you don’t have any game development expertise.

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[–] ysjet@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

That's pretty rich coming from pocket pair. "We don't use the art and design stealing machine, we steal the art and designs ourselves!"

[–] yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca 195 points 2 days ago (4 children)

That's a good business model. "If our customers don't like it, our employees don't like it, and we can do business without it, why should we use it?"

Lol, how do you losers tokenmaxxing with that sort of attitude?

[–] chaos@beehaw.org 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Careful, when the AIs get so good that you can ask them anything and they perfectly understand what you want and produce great results, you're going to get left behind because... you won't know how to use the... incredibly easy tools... hang on...

[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Listen as a 6-year prompt engineer I know exactly how to manipulate the AI to give me... well you know not a great results... yet but it'll be great one day and then I'll know how to say the archaic words cuz I will have already practiced, see it makes sense!

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[–] yyprum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

And the stakeholders? Is no one going to think of the stakeholders?!

[–] laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Beacuse minimize the effing costs or you fired

[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 59 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm not sure AI is cheaper now that AI companies are no longer artificially suppressing prices. Especially compared to the PR companies you need to pay if you use AI.

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[–] Drekaridill@lemmy.wtf 42 points 1 day ago

Who could have possibly guessed that artists like doing art!

[–] rem26_art@fedia.io 88 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I remember there was a rumor going around Twitter when Palworld first launched that Pocketpair had used AI for some of their character designs, and there was some backlash, but it turned out to be false. Feeling some of that heat, even if it was unwarranted, probably also helped set their opinions on using AI for that kind of stuff.

If gamers don't want it and your own staff doesn't want to use it, no point in wasting money trying to force it.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 54 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Now try and convince the entire tech industry of that last sentence.

[–] Sineljora@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago

I am, and I’m doing exactly what it takes to convince the entire tech industry. I’m not buying their shit. They’ll either capitulate or there will be an alternative tech industry.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

I ran into a research article a couple weeks back pointing out that devs that use AI were 25% less productive, despite all "consultants" claiming they should be 25% more productive.

Hopefully the tech industry starts waking up once they start having to maintain the giant mess they've made

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Apparently they used some AI generated textures but removed them later. They did have a game that included AI generating images as gameplay.

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

AI is the worst kind of bullshit fantasy because it convinces people to dehumanize themselves and others with a condescending sense of inevitability for a future that the technology does not provide any hard evidence for being inevitable.

Human artists are supremely valuable, fuck this "rational" economic system that pretends otherwise.

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (5 children)
[–] HoodieGyaru@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

YouTube showing me the account that shared this YouTube link makes me feel so creeped out.

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] xnx@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You have to turn that off in settings or remove the tracker part of the link (everything after the ?)

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks. I turned it off it settings now too, I don’t like that that was randomly introduced and not an opt in situation, but, I expect nothing less from Google.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

And here I am going, yes I want to know where your bullshit is coming from...

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[–] Smeef@crazypeople.online 1 points 23 hours ago

Now that is some good marketing.

[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 55 points 2 days ago

I bought Palworld just to spite Nintendo and thus far i haven't regretted buying it.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago
[–] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Great. Cause if they aren't paying people to make the game, I'm not paying to play the damn game.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Even if the game is free, I adhere by the rules of "time is money."

[–] mrbigmouth502@piefed.zip 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I really hope they're being sincere about these statements.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago

They kind of already went through the ringer with people accusing the pals of being AI generated pokemon (which was disproven by their lead artist).

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This exclusionary, contemporary AI definition really grinds my gears.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

What do we call the thing that governs NPC behavior now?

[–] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

Behavior trees

[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

State Machines?

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It's never been AI, but that's what we called it anyway, and that's what we'll keep calling it.

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[–] SnowzSan@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (17 children)

See, I don't mind AI if it's used for stuff like NPC interactions and what not, but not for the creation of assets or mechanics.

At least in it's current iteration, AI can stand out like a sore thumb and once you see it, something is taken away from the experience.

I don't think I've played a game where I've seen AI but this definitely applies to other faucets.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

only if the dialogue is already pre-written by people.

[–] everett@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 days ago (8 children)
[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bathroom sink, outdoor, utility…

[–] everett@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago

Stop, I can only get so wet.

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[–] Jotunn@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

This is the same studio that gave us AI: Art Impostor. Guess that is how they learned it's hated.

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