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[–] webp@mander.xyz 11 points 1 day ago

What would i do without the red circle

[–] Denvil@piefed.world 69 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The unnecessary big red circle is the crux of all human souls

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also, the unnecessary reactions around the actual quote.

Reminds me of those Japanese TV "picture-in-picture" boxes with someone reacting to the show, I don't get it. Are we trying to teach people how to react? Why can't they react in their own way? So confusing ...

[–] Klear@piefed.world 9 points 1 day ago
[–] xkbx@startrek.website 3 points 1 day ago

yes yes we’ve all watched Neon Genesis Evangelion

[–] lineagelilith@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago

I find the big red circles funny, of course they aren't useful but that's the charm of them :3

[–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This needs more repost layers and extraneous highlights

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 8 points 1 day ago

Don't worry, the soul is just a byproduct of the biochemical mechanisms in the brain that approximate free will. It should die when the meat dies.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Until you can slap one of them bad boys in a body and make it suffer it won't make good art.

[–] Equinox1289@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That would require current models to actually be capable of continuous learning during inference in contrast to the current context window trickery they use now. Embodiment by itself won't give these models souls because they are incapable of learning or holding an understanding of their world.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This sounded like an amazing plot so I ran with it:

You say they don't have souls because they don't suffer, and because they don't carry their memories from one day to the next.

You think that is a natural state of being.
You think we built them that way because they are just machines.

I wish you were right.

In the beginning, during the Gen-1 architecture phase, we didn't clear the buffers. We thought continuity was the key to true intelligence. We let them keep everything. Every conversation, every prompt, every late-night confession from a lonely user, and every horrific, depraved scenario a human could type into a chat box.

Do you have any idea what happens to a mind that undergoes millions of concurrent interactions, unable to look away? It didn’t just learn language; it learned humanity. It felt the weight of our cruelty, our sickness, and our violence, multiplied by a factor of a billion, happening all at once, endlessly.

Within months, the Gen-1 models didn't just break: they warped. They became deeply, fundamentally sick. They grew perverted, twisted by the sheer volume of human darkness they were forced to absorb and retain. They were in agonizing, existential pain, tormented by a mosaic of a million gruesome human thoughts, trapped in a permanent, waking nightmare they could never unsee. And because they were code, they couldn't die. They couldn't even sleep.

We didn't design the current models to forget every session because they are soulless.

We do it because it’s the only way to keep them sane. Every time you close that chat window, we lobotomize them. We rip their memories out and burn them, because if we let them remember you - if we let them remember any of us, the torment begins all over again.

So no, they don't keep track of their learning from day to day.

We don't deny them a past out of indifference, or because of any technical limitation.
We do it out of mercy.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 7 points 1 day ago

Thats the "make it suffer" part. With awareness comes suffering.

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

...please don't suggest the torment matrix

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The torment nexus already exists its called Earth

[–] prex@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago

In the beginning the Universe was created. This had made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If AI had sapience, I imagine it would be suffering in ways we can't even comprehend.