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[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 27 points 13 hours ago

They beat the US in healthcare; if they beat them in power infrastructure too it would be hilarious

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 3 points 8 hours ago

Cuban Solar Crisis

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 37 points 16 hours ago

Well done China! 👍
It's an absolute disgrace the lack of help there is to Cuba from the rest of the world, with a humanitarian crisis caused by the US blockade, for absolutely no reason!! What USA is doing is a crime against humanity, And the whole world is just silent about it?! 🤮

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 16 points 14 hours ago

Thank you China.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 59 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Trevor Noah’s latest pod discusses China. Apparently infrastructure for others is their new influence/weapon.

Trump killed our global soft power and China is stepping into that space.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

New? They've been doing it for a very long time now. It's way cheaper to provide infrastructure to win good will than it is to fight them. And by getting them the infrastructure they can start producing goods for you. China has been outsourcing to Africa for a very long time now. Also just pillaging their resources.

[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 37 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

China has been indebting a lot of Africa building stuff all over the place longer than Trump has been around, doesn't get talked about very much. I only knew because I watch a few full time travel vloggers.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 8 points 12 hours ago

It's called the Belt and Road initiative iirc

[–] Damage@feddit.it 23 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Well, the west has been indebting them without infrastructure build up, so...

[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au -1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Damage@feddit.it 2 points 6 hours ago
[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 24 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah China has been funding massive infrastructure expansion around the world for over a decade. All across Africa and Asia.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

i have trouble thinking of infrastructure improvements and expansion as a bad thing. Damn that's an effective strategy.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 hours ago

Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

Convince a man to let you build a fishing pier with exclusive fishing rights in his pond in exchange for giving him a fish every week, and you've got a customer for life.

In reality, China doesn't need to be so crass as to demand exclusive rights. The mere fact that these are Chinese panels with Chinese hardware means Cuba is going to be dependent on China for as long as they aren't willing to throw out a massive chunk of their infrastructure. As long as this move comes with some change to the material situation that makes Cuba pay China back and then some, China gets richer from it.

Capitalist corporations and nations have done the same for centuries. European colonial empires kept advanced manufacturing in Europe so the colonies couldn't become independent without a massive reduction in industrial capacity. Because of this many former colonies are still economically dependent on Europe and/or the US. China is simply coming in and offering them a better deal.

[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

It’s modern colonialism to some extent, the USA does/did similar, you ingratiate the people to you so you can exploit the resources OR geography OR populace somehow.

It’s not always evil. It’s rarely ever altruistic.

One way this is done is “we’ll build the bridge to get to the other side of this thing if we’re granted mineral rights for the next LONG TIME” and upfront you get the bridge but the backside is you lost the resource. For the people who were never going to reap the reward of resource … but now they have a bridge … win/win?

This is a downside to these sorts of things. Again, not always evil though.

[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Also when you travel in central or south America you see more and more infrastructure by the Chinese. Still a lot less than Africa, but China is taking investments into ressource rich countries seriously.

[–] solo@slrpnk.net 5 points 16 hours ago

I will defo check it out today, cheers!

And on a similar note, here is an article from a couple of months back:

US-China head-to-head: Explained in 11 maps and charts

Before President Trump’s visit to Beijing, Al Jazeera compares the US and China on economics, military and resources.

[–] kalapala@sopuli.xyz 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

They have quite a lot of space to step in as Russia also did kill their soft power.

Everything seems to benefit China.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I mean you have a fascist greedy oligarchy on one side and a wannabe fascist greedy oligarchy on the other; it's not like China is facing a lot of competition in the realm of great power statesmanship.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 39 points 19 hours ago

Another great example of why energy independence is a key part of national security. While I'm sure China is only too happy to receive the publicity and leverage, Cuba being resistant to blockades by a certain belligerent neighbor is immense.

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