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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Yeah let's focus on our franchises like Doom and Quake -- by firing half the staff at id.

Sony is on fire, Microsoft is on fire, Nintendo seems to be doing fine by focusing on brands and profit-first hardware; Valve is doing its own thing...Where did everyone else go so wrong?

[–] aksdb@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Looks like those that do badly are those that went on an acquisition spree over the last years.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I think Nintendo has moved to niche, their gaming selection is so bad.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Yeah... Todd and Emil... are gonna have to... actually make something good.

For the first time in a decade.

Right so like Asha's statement said that no publically announced games have been cancelled.

... Does Elder Scrolls 6 ... actually count as publically announced?

Its never had a release date or window, its only ever had one trailer, basically just a panning landscape shot...

FallOut 5 certainly isn't any kind of actually 'publically announced'.

Yeah I can see enough wiggle room there that Asha can basically be a fascist and just straight up tell Todd and Emil exactly what to do, and threaten to fire them if they don't.

Also just... as a former MSFT employee... I do not have enough lols to type in response to 'we're going to make sure there are no more than 5 layers of management, and also having a COO is probably a good idea'.

Yeah. Yep. I ... actually just straight up agree with that one, yep.

Too bad expressing such sentiments a decade ago wasn't exactly uh, well reviewed by my superiors at the time, oh well, cest la vie.

[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 26 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, it's always a wonderful idea for creative game companies to stop being creative and trying to come up with cool new things and instead focus on things that have sold well in the past to please the shareholders.

That always works out for everyone.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

They could make a new Halo, that goes past even normal numbers. They don’t even have to settle for billions of gamers. They could call it…Halo Infinite.

[–] kureta@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 hours ago

Well, so f as r it worked really well for Bethesda. They sold Skyrim 10 times to everyone.

[–] Kn1ghtDigital@lemmy.zip 80 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

NGL I don't have a lot of faith in Bethesda to actually create quality anymore. The image for this is for Vegas, which was more obsidian's work, and they did it in a fraction of time, I think?

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Depends how you look at it. Obsidian was more like a modding team than a game development team for New Vegas. They had the engine and all mechanics ready to use. All they had to do was minor tweaks and new content. So essentially modding, not developing a game.

Arguably, most of 'game development' these days is more akin to 'modding' from 10+ years ago, so the terms kind of lose their meaning. But New Vegas was made in 2008-2010, so I think it fits.

As we can see years later, games made by Obsidian from scratch aren't nearly as good. Perhaps what made New Vegas great was the mix of Bethesda and Obsidian. Or maybe Obsidian just lost their edge, like most studios, sadly.

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 18 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'm a huge Elder Scrolls fan. I met my partner on Elder Scrolls Online. I have pretty much zero faith in Elder Scrolls VI being any good.

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[–] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 22 points 19 hours ago

Yea it was a very short window for development, 18 months: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas

[–] DigDoug@lemmy.world 104 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Is that code for "Rerelease Skyrim again"?

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 20 hours ago

I mean fuck, better than what they've been doing.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 18 points 19 hours ago

Its code for more horse armour and online services that they can milk for years

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 13 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

I mean if they did the Oblivion Remastered with Skyrim, that's easy fucking money.

Or even Fallout 3 & 4.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

As far as I know a Remaster of Fallout 3 is planned actually.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck no, not that. UE5 looks horrible, and most of the NPC's in the Oblivion remaster look lile skinwalkers

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 12 minutes ago* (last edited 12 minutes ago)

I couldn’t take Oblivion Remastered seriously because of the goofy sprint animation. Every single time I zoomed out to third person, (which I usually do for melee combat) the goofy sprint had me cackling. The character runs like you’re out of lockpicks and trying to bash doors down with your skull.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 16 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

Honestly I'd be alright with fallout 3 remastered

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[–] TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 25 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Good luck Bethesda, even Obsidian has hit an 18 carat run of bad luck. I guess they'll stay afloat due to casual players and the fact that its an elderschrolls game. But count me the fuck out on getting es6, that shit will need to be fucking amazing for me to pay the AAA price it will inevitability be, and I mean AMAZING cause after fallout 4 I've been disappointed with them. God I wanna be wrong Tod, PLEASE TOD PROVE ME WRONG 😭

[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 26 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You dont need to worry about ES7, with the amount of time ES6 is taking, ES7 wont be within out lifetimes

[–] TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 hours ago

Lmao, my dumbass meant es6

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 50 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (7 children)

I'm not a CEO or anything but maybe they should try making an elder scrolls more than once every 20 years.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

But making games costs money. Corporations are supposed to make money for their shareholders, not spend it!

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

someone should have told them that before Starfield.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Starfield almost certainly made a boatload of money.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

and so would elderscrolls. I was yes-anding the joke.

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[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 42 points 21 hours ago (11 children)

What else have they been busy with? Just Starfield?

[–] immutable@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

Let me preface this with the fact that I like Bethesda games, fallout, Skyrim, starfield, I enjoy them all.

Does anyone else feel like they are all kinda the same game.

  • elder scrolls: medieval Bethesda game
  • fallout: apocalypse Bethesda game
  • starfield: space Bethesda game

They share like 90% of the game mechanics.

I could see cutting back on these if they were all radically different, but they all few so similar to me, almost interchangeable.

But I’m sure not innovating and pumping out cash grab sequel after cash grab sequel will work, that works really well right? In a few years we can all read the “how Bethesda got beat by {scrappy upstart that actually provided interesting new games}” articles that try to piece together the mystery.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Skyrim > 4 years > Fallout 4 > 4 Years > Fallout 76 (yes, it was Todd's team that made the map and original quests) > 4+1 years > Starfield

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 33 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (18 children)

Seriously, it isn't like Bethesda has a long list of IP to work with here.

Other than Elder Scrolls and Fallout (which they should already be assumed to be focusing on to begin with), the only other IPs that are still alive would be DOOM and maybe Wolfenstein,

Dishonored is dead, Quake is dead, they shuttered Tango so no continuation of Hi-Fi Rush or Ghostwire, RAGE is dead.

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