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In May, the House Energy and Commerce Committee ‌voted 48-1 in favor of the Sunshine Protection Act. The U.S. Senate voted unanimously in March 2022 to make daylight saving time permanent but the House never took up the measure in the face ​of opposition. The proposal the House will consider next week would allow states ​to opt out.

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[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 7 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

JUST! DO! THINGS! AT A! DIFFERENT! TIME! DAMMIT!!!

Head smashing GIF

If you feel like time should always be an hour ahead, just do things an hour early! There's no need to change our entire reckoning of time

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Conservatives really are doing everything to repeat the Nixon years.

Nixon tried it. Turns out people didn't like it once they had it and it was switched back.

[–] stretch2m@infosec.pub 12 points 1 day ago

Who even fucking cares anymore? How about demanding proof of life from the Senate Majority Leader? Stop wasting your breath on this bullshit.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

This is just a half measure. They need to fix the tilt of the Earth for a real solution to this problem.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As someone who works too damn early, please let's be sensible and do permanent standard time.

I'm sorry Canada, you're usually right, but you're wrong about this

[–] Thalion@lemmy.ca 2 points 22 hours ago

To be fair, Saskatchewan of all places actually did it right. BC surprised me. Alberta makes perfect sense with Marlena at the helm.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We are further north. I went daylight time because it leaves more daylight after work.

[–] zeb420@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Even here in the Midwest I feel the same. I’d rather have the sunlight during my time, not while I’m at work.

[–] sportsjorts@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Trump just fired the federal election commission and fucks kids. Epstien files.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Exactly.

Of course there might be somethibg horrible in this bill that they want to sneak through.

I just saw that. What. The. Fuck.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I'm too lazy to find my years old comment on this but they didn't vote on it because they pocketed it to use as a rider base or ticket.

There is literally no opposition, they wanted to use it to pass other bills or measures at the same time because it has complete bipartisan support.

Congress sucks ass.

[–] jambudz@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Noon should be noon, not 1.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do you complain for 3/4 of the year?

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Yes. Where I live is on the weird edge of a timezone, so even for the tiny part of the year where time makes more sense solar noon is at around 12:33. When daylight savings happens, that goes to 13:33. Noon happens closer to 15:00 than to "noon" and it's stupid

[–] jambudz@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes, seriously makes my insomnia worse.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 94 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (24 children)

This would be about the only good thing Republicans have done ever if they pass this. Hope they don't let states opt out. When I lived up north by Canada, the logic was "you don't want kids having to walk to/from school when it's dark!!" Okay, so... wow, did you know they could change school hours.

[–] Steve@communick.news 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (14 children)

When I lived up north by Canada, the logic was "you don't want kids having to walk to/from school when it's dark!!" Okay, so... wow, did you know they could change school hours.

The same argument works the other way. Keep noon as the point where the sun is highest. Then change the times of things for appropriate daylight. Daylight savings is just people agreeing to get up an hour earlier. Instead of "9 to 5", everyone agrees to work 8 to 4. Which coincidentally puts solar noon perfectly in the middle of the work day. Isn't that a surprise!

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Well, we're also in the 21st century and this jump an hour twice a year shit makes no sense. We could make timekeeping worldwide way more insane by having it adjust "imperceptibly" over time to auto adjust times worldwide based on true solar noon at each individual clock location using GPS. So all clocks would now have GPS as well to be able to ping their location to get the appropriate time. This... would be insane. We'd have seconds that are longer than a second. LET'S DO IT.

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[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Ending the clock change is a great idea. The question becomes, do we want to:

Go the permanent daylight saving route. Be an hour off from the rest of the world adding to the stack of weird and arguably stupid things the USA does different so we can have a bit of light after work instead of questioning why we're working our lives away. Also, drastically increase the number of morning injuries and fatalities, especially among children, as schools will be starting in the dark.

OR

Be sane.

It appears Congress has spoken.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because of existing time zones aren’t we already different from the rest of the world? You make other good points but the rest of the world comparison seems odd. If anything just picking one is more consistent and safer regardless. I mean if you wanna talk about weird, the entire mainland china is one time zone, China Standard Time.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Or the fact that countries change to DST at different times if at all.

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why we don't move schools to start later in winter so they start in sunlight

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You'd also have to change working hours for parents so they can get their kids ready for school.

[–] Dr_Del_Fuego@slrpnk.net 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 hours ago

But then you need to change the working hours for their co-workers who depend on them. Then some of the business partners of the companies that have a large number of employees that changed their working hours.

Eventually we get right back to where we started. The reason we change the clocks is because we decided that as a society, parts of the world that have a significant angle to the sun (which have a limited amount of daylight in the winter, and an excess amount of daylight in the summer) so we came up with a system to deal with that fact in a fairly organized way. There won't be a good solution to this, but simply changing the clocks twice a year is probably the least worst of all options.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

That kids darkness thing is so stupid. Our kids start school in the dark they are not dying on the streets.

[–] nroth@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (16 children)
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's, like, THE STANDARD

Yeah, no clue why everyone's going DST instead. I think having politicians make science decisions is a really dumb idea.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

People get cranky when the time is moved forward in the spring. So they write to the politicians around that time. The politicians start talking about doing away with it then. There's no thought towards "ok we'll move the clacks back in the fall (nobody's cranky about that one) and then not change it again." It's just "do away with changing the clocks immediately!"

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[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (9 children)

SHUT THE FUCK UP! OKAY? They vote on this every fucking year and it dies in the Senate. Big Clock is going to lobby this shit until I die. Just shut up. Stop talking about it. Daylight Savings will be in the USA for at least another hundred years.

[–] Floodedwomb@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It passed in the Senate. It died in the house.

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[–] mangobanana@discuss.online 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I love living in one of the 2 states that DON'T change time . I absolutely hated it and always thought it was stupid all the back and forth it's only an hour, just leave it at one time (honestly I don't care which). I used to live in the Midwest and the time change was the bane of my existence

[–] ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am very surprised by the push back to this I'm reading in the comments. Keeping time stable will on average, be a 30 minute difference relative to the sun, and folks are fearing they will spend their entire days mired in darkness? I don't get it.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

The US isn't know for a well educates populace.

When fast food chains tried releasing a 1/3rd pound burger they failed horribly because people thought 1/3 was less than a 1/4 pound burger.

[–] deadmyk@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

Why not just move school and work start times an hour or two later in the winter in Colorado then? Why hold the entire country hostage because of niche locations that already have the ability to make local decisions like this?

[–] lps2@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

>more people will be driving to work or to the ski resorts in the dark

Trust me, if you aren't on I-70 before sunrise on the weekend, don't bother. You're not getting to the resort till noon

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