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  • Most experts agree Linux is safer than Windows

  • All scientific supercomputers use Linux

  • Professional hackers use Linux

  • Linux is the undisputed backbone of internet servers

  • Critical military infrastructure relies on Linux

Microsoft's revenue was $300 Billion last year. They have unlimited ressources.

So why is Windows still worse than Linux ?

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[–] BigBoyShuanzee@aussie.zone 1 points 3 hours ago

Wait.. why is this a question..? I guess it's the same as when people ask my why Adobe is so terrible, why HP is terrible or why Apple is so terrible.

Companies eventually get so big and powerful they only care about companies.

Stop paying for Microsoft, pirate is Stop using Microsoft office, Get libre office Stop using HP, get Lenovo or Dell instead Everyone everywhere should stop using apple.

As much as I hate Apple/OoS and I do truly hate Apple.. Adobe is the worst company on earth.

Easiest way to explain it is that Apple and Microsoft exist just to steal all your money Adobe not only wants to steal all your money but they wanted take it all then make you pay so they can lazily explain why they took your money. HP is in the corner breaking all your furniture so they can charge you a fee to fix it and put Microsoft, apple and Adobe trash on it.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

Passion vs corporate.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 54 points 11 hours ago

Linux is setting out to make an operating system. Microsoft are setting out to make a data capturing advertising billboard that sometimes runs programs.

[–] plz1@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
  1. Linux isn't driven by a profit-first motive, so user-centric decisions come first
  2. There is no number 2
[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 2 points 3 hours ago
  1. Everyone uses and knows Microsoft because it's what they know and use
[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 4 points 8 hours ago

Is this a real question ?.One is about maximising profit extraction, one is not.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 17 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Microsoft has pretty much lost most of their experienced employees, they're sitting on a mountain of spaghetti code with tech debt that goes back to windows 3.1 to maintain compatibility, they've fired their QA team, and their absolutely out-of-touch leadership is trying to force the surviving employees to use AI anywhere they can for developing the OS to pump up the numbers of AI users to prop up their insanely huge AI gamble so shareholders don't lose faith.

They're acting confident because they haven't had to respond to a credible threat to their monopoly for 30 years, and that arrogance combined with everything mentioned above will most likely be their ultimate demise. The corporate system they have created and perpetuated is no longer capable of righting the ship, both technologically and organizationally.

They made a statement years ago now about how they were going to respond to the success of the steamdeck by creating a handheld mode for windows, but they never did, and Valve ate their lunch and allowed Linux to gain a foothold among gamers. They probably couldn't manage building that handheld mode (it's been so many years now, but I read a post from a Microsoft employee detailing how it could take something crazy like a week of work just to add a new menu entry to a drop-down without it introducing major breakages elsewhere).

They haven't been able to develop a killer app or feature for Windows in over a decade, and I don't think there's anything else under their sleeve. I believe we are actively witnessing the downfall of an ossified giant, just as the once great Commodore fell due to incompetence and extreme corporate greed.

They already use Linux for their server division (azure). Eventually, if Linux is able dominate on the desktop in the next decade, they may shift to selling their own Linux distro with a 100% windows compatible container/VM instead, an inversion of their current model of selling Windows with their optional WSL (windows subsystem for Linux).

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 13 hours ago

Their business isn't to make an operating system better than linux.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago

Linux has devs in charge instead of managers.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Different design priorities - MS devs aim to make the OS a marketing tool for other products, which are continuously obsoleted to encourage repeated re-buying. Linux devs aim to make stuff work.

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[–] adhdsergio@lemmy.world 17 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Apart from what everyone here is saying, which is probably mostly true, I want to add that the Windows division in microsoft isn't the biggest either in terms of revenue or funding; it's not even second. The office team is much bigger for instance - so Windows has not been Microslops priority for a good 15 years i'd say. My 2 cents

[–] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Also the number of developers and amount of money put into something doesn't make it is necessarily better. I almost want to think that fewer developers and less money on Windows is a good thing considering Microslop only ever wants to increase operating costs in order to make more revenue.

[–] adhdsergio@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

True but my impression is that in contrast to other divisions it probably doesn't get the focus, resources or the vision it needs. It's just a means to sell their other stuff, so all the great people will choose to work for other teams. I remember seeing a discussion with Dave Cutler (if i remember his name correctly) a few years ago saying he left the windows team to work on xbox and azure because it was much more interesting - i know the guy has done it all and was looking for something different but it didn't seem very encouraging

[–] LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago

Priorities and objectives.

[–] NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Bloat and feature creep, and is marketed not only to corporations because sysadmins' existing experience with that platform, but also towards the mainstream as much as Apple and Google (through ChromeOS).

[–] Sinthesis@lemmy.today 1 points 8 hours ago

Profit some times makes terrible decisions. In other cases, where cost has a relation to efficiency, profit does great. See also: capitalism.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Corporate culture. Microsoft may be one company to us outsiders, but internally they are a ton of different divisions divided into teams. All those teams have their own agendas, priorities, and competing visions.

If you just look at the Windows kernel project, it’s really good.

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 2 points 12 hours ago

Came to say "culture". This is the thing most average Americans struggle with. We've had capitalism drilled into us from birth. Want something better? Pay more. Full stop.

Somehow we miss there is so much more to being a society than just transactional interactions. Not that the open source community doesn't have its problems but it fundamentally is approached differently. With no profit motive why would you spend a single minute of your precious time doing anything for another person, especially a stranger?

That is at the heart of it, but you can decompose it into leadership (or a lack of it), misaligned incentives, intercompany politics, atrophying innovation, and on and on with the corpo buzzwords.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 34 points 18 hours ago

Easy, their objective is to make money, not develop software. Linux is made and maintained by users, for users...

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I agree with all your points. The quesion is why is Windows still dominating in market share?

[–] soEZ@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Office, the fucking office suit everyone and thier grandma uses that does not work with alternative that run nativity on Linux... ugh....i mean office works bearly between two windows machines....so its not like the open source community did not give it a try, but the random proprietary standard in .doc/docx etc ...just locks us in...

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

The answer is user awareness, brand loyalty and fear of the unknown. Windows is the devil you know, most of the people I game with are scared of the instability of Linux, despite it being roughly equal if not better.

I think standardizing the user experience, making things less scary and generally more welcoming are major hurdles, but the good news is that should come with time and a larger userbase.

[–] catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

The search bar just doesn't work. It's right in the middle of the screen so I keep clicking it and even type things in but it simply doesn't populate with any results even if you wait. Absolute joke of a company

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

Microsoft and the like are doing a great job to prove they don't have to release anything quality and people will still throw them buckets of money. It's wild to watch, but hey it's better they stay there than come to Linux in the masses to encourage the enshitification of stuff that's still good.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Linux was built by engineers and professors based on idealistic values like progress and collaboration. Windows was also built by talented nerds, but at the direction of suits with the goal of making money.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 19 points 20 hours ago

And now they're ripping all the shit the talented nerds made out and replacing it with AI slop and ads.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

too many spoon is the bowl spoil the batter

[–] WecottNow@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Windows is better in compatibility with many commercial products, but the gap is quickly closing, and I think Microsoft is feeling the pressure.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 hours ago

If you include the entire history of Windows programs, I have my doubts about this. For instance I've had more consistent results running old Windows games on Linux through WINE/Proton than I had in Windows 10. Linux may have better backwards compatibility with Windows programs than modern Windows does.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 9 points 16 hours ago

Commercial closed source loses because of the profit motive to cut corners and make anti-features. Plus little to no independent peer review. Also legacy stuff can't just be recompiled or ported by anyone, so ABI has to be stable for a long time. Even new stuff, can't be all compiled to the same one version of every lib, so basically ever program has it's own version each lib it uses.

Plus they have a big user base locked in, so they have to take whatever they are given. So motivation to be good is low.

Just so many reasons!

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (10 children)

Because their management structure is horrendously overbloated and their internal culture is horrific.

I used to work for them. Every manager, every team lead, at every level, is viciously trying to climb to the top of the crab bucket, and pull every one else down at the same time.

Look at Asha Sharma's recent statment on reorganizing Xbox.

14 levels of management. 14. You have have a boss, who has a boss, who has a... up to fucking 14.

... the entire company is like this, not just Xbox.

Thats why everything is insane broken nonsense.

Oh, that and extreme over reliance on contractors to do most of the actual work. Contractors don't get stock options, you see.

This results in a situation where half of any project's timeline is the new contractors just trying to understand the code the previous contractors made.

That is all wasted time, compared to if you just actually had a consistent team you paid properly... and of course it massively exacerbates technical debt.

Nothing is actually properly documented, there are very, very few people who actually understand a codebase and have been maintaining and growing it for 10 years, no, its 10 years of 10 different sets of contractors, and maybe 3-6 different managers 'overseeing' this.

It is all spaghetti code.

There has never been a totally new Windows, certainly not in this century. That has never happened, and they lie internally to their own employees about that.

There has never been a total refactor of Windows. Windows 11 still has UI menus from Win 7, possibly fucking XP, if you dig deep enough.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

... jesus christ.

I did not know it was actually that bad, that it went back that far... god damnit.

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[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 17 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Windows isn't trying to do what Linux does.

On the server end, Linux beat every competitor out there, including Windows Server, because it was free and development occurred along the lines of educated users making improvements. So, at first Linux was worse to use, but it was cheaper. Then, Linux was about as easy/stable as paid for versions, but it was cheaper. When it became easier to use to educated users and more stable and cheaper, all paid server OS's died.

That said, I bring up educated users because Linux is only a kernel and Windows by itself does more than Linux does by itself. On the consumer end, no one has been able to threaten Windows without a DRM'd app store. Consumers won't do bug fixes at the scale that enterprise users will. Consumers generally need more developed on the UI side to make the OS functional while you can run Linux in terminal mode. Most of Windows' development went into this, making Windows easy/desirable for consumers. In contrast, most Linux development time went to making Linux more easy/desirable for enterprise users/servers.

This is really the first year that Linux for consumers is viable and a lot of that work packaging Linux for consumers came from Valve putting the various pieces of open source software together and sanding down the rough edges. In contrast, Microsoft has been doing that for a generation.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 190 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Their main goal is to extract maximum revenue, not to provide good products. Also, they've grown fat on the monopoly profits they enjoyed for decades. It's very hard to pivot back to competitiveness from that and as of now, they're not really compelled to do that.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

true but to do that they have 100s of layers of variously documented backward compatibility and work-arounds. all their stuff is a mountain of deliberate technical debt that will affect the quality of their software

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 24 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

This is it. For-profit companies exist to make a profit, not a product. Any time you ask "why did they do this thing that makes the product worse?" remember that the product doesn't matter to them, only the money it makes. If a change makes more money, they'll do it.

Some might think a worse product means worse sales and less profit, but they'd be wrong. Enough people buy products regardless of their quality that it's often more profitable to simply make the product as cheap as possible while maintaining just barely enough of the most basic functionality to meet the definition of what they're trying to sell.

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[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 43 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Microsoft's mission isn't to improve the public good. Microsoft's mission is wealth extraction for its shareholders.

Windows is worse for you as an individual consumer. But I would argue Windows is a better product for advertisers and other interests that go beyond you. Those interests are at odds with your interests. You need to look at the bigger picture.

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[–] slowtrain33@lemmy.ml 61 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Because with Linux, the software design decisions are made by engineers, not executives.

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