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submitted 10 months ago by Syldon@feddit.uk to c/unitedkingdom@feddit.uk

The ratio for those is favour of reversing Brexit is very close to two to one now.

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[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 90 points 10 months ago

Support for rejoin can be as high as it wants to be. The bottom line is that Sir Keir has ruled it out. It's not happening. He doesn't want to lose Labour Red Wall votes.

I think people have to be realistic about these things. If they want to rejoin, vote for a party that will take us back in or at least are receptive of the idea of applying. That's not Labour yet people want to vote for them. Pick your priorities.

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 56 points 10 months ago

All well and good but with a FPTP system you cannot vote for what you want and expect to get it. If we had PR then that would be a different story.

[-] jellybreadracer@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Why Labour will never support pr.

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 9 points 10 months ago

As far as I am concerned, the next GE will be the last time I vote Labour unless they announce PR as part of their manifesto. I can understand Starmer dodging on this next innings, but failing adding it to the next GE after would just mean we are on a circle jerk. I still remember Blair said he would move to PR when he was in office.

[-] jellybreadracer@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

“Sir”

I am pro rejoin, but calling Keir sir in this statement is a bit too much unless you are being ironic. So you say dame priti also?

Also funnily enough my phone suggested that Keith as autocorrect for keir :)

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[-] Rooty@lemmy.world 75 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Reverse Brexit

It doesn't work that way. They have to apply for membership and go through the standard process. It's not like they can snap their fingers and become a core member once again, until the next populist leader starts threatening to leave.

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 14 points 10 months ago

No one has said otherwise.

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 7 points 10 months ago

I’m pretty sure the EU would welcome the U.K. back - not easily, of course, lots of stuff to negotiate and I should think the EU would ask for guarantees that we would pay into the budgets for the next 25 years, no matter what happens.

I’m sure they’d be happy to let us keep the pound and stay out of Schengen.

But timing matters … first there’s a constitutional debate that the EU would want to settle before letting the U.K. back in and if they move to more qualified majority voting, it might be that the U.K. wouldn’t want to join after all.

The whole “ever closer union” bit seems to have been ignored by Britain, even when they first joined. Did we think those words meant nothing?

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah of course we'd have to apply for membership again who said otherwise? The problem with your straw man arguement is you're the only one making it. Everyone else is off busy having a different conversation which is actually connected in some way with things that have been said.

[-] Nurgle@lemmy.world 55 points 10 months ago

Sorry I’m American, but wouldn’t reverse Brexit just be Brentry??

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 34 points 10 months ago

Bre-entry, because they've already entered once.

[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 16 points 10 months ago

Breverse course and Bre-enter.

[-] Elkenders@feddit.uk 5 points 10 months ago

Bre-brentry? David Brentry?

[-] darkpanda@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago
[-] spudwart@spudwart.com 4 points 10 months ago
[-] mnoram@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

No no, the reverse of Brexit is Tixerb.

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Nope, it would be BRilliant.

[-] Akasazh@feddit.nl 8 points 10 months ago

Breunification

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 34 points 10 months ago

Can they actually reverse it? Will the EU take them back?

[-] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 83 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Not reverse it but reapply for membership, that will of course be subject to veto!

It will come with a lot of prerequisites that will make the deal the UK previously had look like they had won a golden ticket

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 30 points 10 months ago

The EU will take the UK back. It has been said by a few. The UK will still have to go through a process. It will not be quick. I would not be surprised if the EU makes the first demand for us to have a new referendum. Just so they know we are not wasting their time.

[-] athos77@kbin.social 13 points 10 months ago

Not just wasting their time - Brexit cost the EU time and effort and money as well. They're not going to bother if the UK isn't sincere.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Yeah I can’t imagine them treating the UK with any special consideration in their favor this time

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Another non-binding referendum, but this time they actually don't take action based on the vote.

[-] kaitco@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Brea Culpa! This time, Britain gets to take up the Euro!

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

That’s what I’ve been saying and always get people yelling at me. Ask two questions “do you want to rejoin the EU?” and “are you willing to adopt the Euro and Schengen zone?” will yield two drastically different results.

[-] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

As an American, I'd happily adopt the Euro and join the Schengen zone.

Apparently, that's not an option for us, though ;)

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 6 points 10 months ago

Not something that would bother me.

[-] calavera@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Don't expect Britain to return to EU in the next 50 years or so.

[-] tintory@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Make it more like 10 to 20 years

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Quite a lot of people are on the fence though.

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 15 points 10 months ago

That's 37% of leave voters not of all voters.

The poll, carried out by the Times, showed that 37% of Leave voters believe Brexit has a been a failure, with just 20% saying it a success and 35% sitting on the fence.

Since the leave vote was 52% that is roughly half so 18% overall.

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