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[-] nyankas@feddit.de 187 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A screenshot from discord, in which nickjcal24 writes: @everyone since messages pushed it way up.  I was fired from The Escapist along with many others today, and in response the entire video team, including Yahtzee, has resigned from The Escapist.  Our plan is to go independent, but we will share more plans on that later this week.

It‘s probably important to mention that the entire video team is gone. Some of them were fired, so the rest walked. They‘re planning to go independent soon.

Edit: Their new channel will be SecondWindGroup. They'll do a livestream on November 8th at 11 AM CT, explaining their plans for the future. (Source)

[-] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 69 points 1 year ago

Damn.

Props to everyone who quit in solidarity.

[-] match@pawb.social 32 points 1 year ago

Imagine if Dropout picked them up

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[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago

Fucking hell, he's been with them for close to 20 years, basically half of his working life. He's been there through a lot of shit too, and basically kept The Escapist going through setbacks, cuts, and more.

I would have assumed he'd be largely untouchable there, so to make a decision that led him to resign immediately is absolutely wild.

To be fair, I quite liked Extra Punctuation, and I've always thought he would now be recognisable enough to either go alone, or actually be in front of a screen without animation. This could work out really well for him.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

I don't like ZP but EP is quite good imo.

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Holy shit so no more Zero Punctuation? He was like half of that channel. Wow this came from nowhere.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 52 points 1 year ago

Theyre practically nothing without him.

[-] FMT99@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

No one would have heard of them if it weren't for ZP

[-] TechLich@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

By the sounds of it their entire video team left. So not half of the channel gone, but all of it...

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[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago

In my mind Escapist as a brand itself is basically only ZP, do they even do anything else?

[-] chaorace 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They used to, before Extra Credits, Critical Role, and MovieBob went independent.

And The Jimquisition if you reach back far enough.

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[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

Zero punctuation and 3-minute reviews are the only reason to be there. Guess i'm out now.

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[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

Well, props to Yahtz for not being a scab and quitting when Nick got fired, good solidarity there

It would be amazing if his team could somehow join the Outside Xbox, then I could get all of my British accented videogame snark in one place

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago

I don't even know what they do except post Yahtzee videos

[-] RQG@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

So the escapist is closing down soon? Alright then.

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 42 points 1 year ago

I know he said he'll show up in another place (and will keep doing largely the same stuff there, presumably) but this is such an impactful end of an era for me. I've been watching ZP my whole adult life, pretty much. I can't believe his next video won't have the iconic music or animated imps. I don't know why this affects me so much but ZP has been such a constant I suppose, that it feels empty with it gone.

Still, huge props to the team for resigning in solidarity, absolutely love seeing that and I'll definitely follow whatever site they end up on next.

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[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 year ago

I stopped watching a long time ago but from what I can tell dude legitimately cares about getting games journalism right, hope it goes well for him

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

He’s definitely one of those that speaks his mind with little filtering. You get his honest opinion, which is nice in a world of bought reviews. Sure his opinion might not match yours, but that’s not the point is it?

He’s also a pretty good author. I recommend all of his books.

[-] llii@feddit.de 41 points 1 year ago

This is definitely the end of an era.

[-] Decoy321@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

For real. I've been listening to these forever.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago
[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Props for the reminder. Thank you.

[-] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

This reminds me of when Jared left Wisecrack, or when literally everyone left Cracked. I felt it coming too, same pattern as many before: the ZP videos started pushing for premium subs with more ads and censoring Yahtzee, and there were more shows with Yatz and a cohost. They always start by pushing the video stars to do stuff with new (cheaper, unknown, less interesting) people because The Company thinks all people are replaceable gears.

Good for the entire video team just quiting, the writing has clearly been on the wall for a while. Maybe he can do work with Stephanie Sterling again? I used to love their team ups!

Well shit that's the Escapist dead. I was kinda wondering.

[-] obinice@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

No more Escapist basically? Oh well.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago

Most people don't remember that The Escapist was originally a PDF games magazine. It was excellent back then. Great articles, and amazing graphic design.

Soon after it became a website, the only thing I went there for was Yahtzee Croshaw, and honestly I haven't listened to Zero Punctuation for maybe 10 years.

[-] Electricorchestra@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago

I'm out of the loop. Any reason given for leaving? I feel like I've watched ZP on and off since we got a family computer.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 56 points 1 year ago

From what's been posted on the discord and a couple of articles it looks like the escapist was bought out, and new management wanted a ton of video content (perhaps to align with the youtube algorithm of prioritizing channels that post multiple videos per day). New management then fired Nick, and the video staff in solidarity (and seeing the writing on the wall of the new direction of promoting low effort, frequent content over less frequent quality content) walked out with him.

I find this kind of funny-sad: The Escapist has often gone through these waves of being The Yahtzee Croshaw Channel to "We're spinning up two other channels just so we can spread out all the stuff we're making." Remember that phase when every ZP started with a bumper about which shows are on which channel? Yeah they stopped uploading things to Escapist Movies and Escapist Live 2 years ago.

I was actually digging some of the newer stuff they were making, particularly The Stuff Of Legends and Cold Take, and doing Extra Punctuation in video form didn't hurt either. Just as I was finally like "Hey Escapist is publishing some shows in addition to ZP that I'm kinda into" it all falls apart.

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Sounds like they definitely fucked up. So they just bought the channel for no reason. There will be no content now.

[-] LadyLikesSpiders@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago

Well that's an unsub. Literally the only thing from them I ever watched

In any case, I look forward to whatever he's got cooked up. Hope he keeps doing stuff like extra punctuation as well

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[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago

Congratulations to some wealthy idiots on their recent purchase of an empty box.

[-] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

I've watched every single episode of zero Punctuation. Holy fuck. This is huge.

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Man has consistently been putting out five minutes of good to pretty good content once a week for over fifteen years, it was an incredible run tbh

[-] sulgoth@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

All while writing books and even narrating the audiobooks. Man didn't have time for punctuation or sleep.

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Right? Essentially half my life. Just dropped out of college when he started up.

He's practically back in the Maddox.xmission.com, PurePwnage, and Newgrounds days.

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[-] DeadWorld@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

I wonder if they're gonna try getting someone else to take up ZP

[-] Alteon@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

Good fucking luck to the next guy. Lol

Shits going down like the Hindenburg.

[-] Famko@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

That would be impossible, since Yahtzee basically is Zero Punctuation, anyone else wouldn't feel right.

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[-] jumbodumbo@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 1 year ago

I stopped following The Escapist a couple months back when it started reminding me more and more of corporate media. ZP was fun because you could get Yat's unfiltered opinion, rather than the almost undiscernable "good game, 7/10" opinion other game reviewers give. The Escapist shot themselves on the foot on this one, imo.

[-] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wow. That’s a heavy blow.

Lords of the fallen, fell this mighty Lord. 🥀

Been watching him for what feels like forever.

Definitely wish him and the team the best of luck moving forward and will keep an eye out for the next venture.

[-] BellaDonna@mujico.org 16 points 1 year ago

Someone please, please back up the old Zero Punctuation videos now, before something happens.

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[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

They started the Second Wind Group channel. So videos should be posted there shortly https://www.youtube.com/@SecondWindGroup

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