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Takeaways from the third 2024 Republican presidential debate (www.reuters.com)

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“I’m sick of Republicans losing,” Florida Governor Ron DeSantis said.

Limber up there, Rhonda!

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[-] fubo@lemmy.world 117 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Thing is, Republicans lose wherever they don't get to cheat. This is for two reasons:

Their policy positions are extremely unpopular with Americans
Their character qualities range from "bad boss" to "fratboy rapist" to "daddy issues".

And then the news media continue to present Republican policy positions and candidates as if they were normal American behavior by normal Americans.

They're really not. They only win when they cheat.

[-] Joe-Blow240@kbin.social 30 points 8 months ago

What policy positions? Donald J. Trump was president of this country. What part of that tells you that policy positions can break a candidate? Democrat apathy is what decides elections.

[-] fubo@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"Anti-woke" is a policy position. It means "Anything we can caricature using black English, it is our intention to harm."

[-] whatupwiththat@kbin.social 8 points 8 months ago

Yep ~ in a sane world they'd be extinct like the Dodo ~ but they keep getting a pass

[-] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

People ideologically to the left of "republican" generally believe in human rights, so they haven't exterminated them.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The paradox of tolerance is only a paradox when all context is removed from actions.

IMO, only pacifists and fools should believe in perpetual nonviolence.

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[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 105 points 8 months ago

Liked it when Nikki Haley called Vivek Ramaswamy scum. It's an apt description.

BUT a year ago, this week, she called for the deportation of U.S.-born Sen. Warnock at a rally to elect MAGA domestic abuser Herschel Walker.

She’s a bigoted extremist like the rest of them.

[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Haley looked and sounded good though. She’s the one I’m worried about. I think Biden could easily handle the others. Haley is a legitimate threat.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago

Good thing Republicans are too stupid and sexist to legitimately entertain her.

[-] PrincessLeiasCat@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

They didn’t seem to mind Sarah Palin, she’s still entertaining them.

[-] Spaghetti_Hitchens@kbin.social 19 points 8 months ago

Palin wasn't the main party on the ticket. Obviously a different timeline, but I can't imagine she would have had as much support as the POTUS candidate.

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[-] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

Haley will never sway the Trump crowd. Because she's a woman. It's awful to say, but I know it's true.

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[-] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 74 points 8 months ago

The takeaways should be that nobody gives a shit because these are the also-rans. The Republican nominee will be Trump, and then they're gonna be fucked because he'll be campaigning from jail.

[-] DarkenLM@kbin.social 36 points 8 months ago

I don't think he'll do a day in prision. From what I see from American posts, your justice system is all kinds of fucked and plagued with corruption.

[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 25 points 8 months ago

Yeah dude will delay and appeal forever and die on the toilet before he dies in a jail cell.

[-] SonnyVabitch@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

Why not both

[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 11 points 8 months ago

One can hope

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[-] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 15 points 8 months ago

Here's to hoping

[-] Gargantu8@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

I want to believe... Just really can't fathom it or even imagine it actually happening.

[-] bus_go_fast@lemmy.world 57 points 8 months ago

Takeaways from the third 2024 Republican presidential debate

They lied, and then lied again. And then lied some more.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

What happened after the lies though?

[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Then they said the truth (that they're gonna strip away the rights of a lot of people) before lieing some more

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

See also: additional lies, gaslighting, assorted propaganda.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 53 points 8 months ago

Any of these fuckers realize the party is toast yet?

endless loop of attack ads of 10 year old girls forced to carry to term their rapists baby with Donald Trump saying "I'm the guy who killed Roe vs. Wade" with the entire GOP laughing and clapping him on the back as it fades to black with the words THIS IS WHO THEY ARE across the screen

[-] Patches@sh.itjust.works 30 points 8 months ago

Could you imagine if the Democratic party had the cajones to do that?

That would hurt their chances to 'reach across the aisle'.

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They already have done that bud.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/08/us/politics/abortion-ads-democrats-election.html

Non-paywalled version

In the days before Tuesday’s election, voters across Ohio heard a stark warning in an ad that blanketed the airwaves. “She could be your neighbor, or niece, your sister or daughter,” the ad said, “But if she is raped and gets pregnant, a law in Ohio would force her to have the child.”

In Kentucky, a young woman named Hadley spoke directly to voters in an ad from Gov. Andy Beshear’s campaign. “I was raped by my stepfather after years of sexual abuse,” she said. “I was 12. Anyone who believes there should be no exceptions for rape and incest could never understand what it’s like to stand in my shoes.”

Deeply personal and explicit, the ads signaled a new tone in Democrats’ messaging on abortion rights, one that confronts head-on the consequences of strict anti-abortion laws.

Maybe you need the cajones to open your eyes lol. Jokes aside and to your point, this shit is LATE AS FUCK. Better than never tho

[-] trebuchet@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago

That doesn't sound nearly as hard hitting to me personally. Doesn't include the attack on the Republicans for making this happen.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago

I just listened to the one featuring Hailey, and it is hard-hitting. It is her telling her story. It left the Kentucky Uncle Tom speechless, and he never recovered from it. They absolutely will do this in every state. It worked, and they have endless clips to use and, unfortunately, endless children being raped by Republicans.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 38 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

“We’ve become a party of losers,” he [Ramaswamy] lamented

"lol" said anyone with an ounce of sanity left in this country, "lmao"

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The last time they won as an aggregate was 2016. They've been severely underperforming ever since, and the SCOTUS takeover was a direct result of the 2016 win.

The problem is, they don't have to win to exert their influence due to the extremely broken US electoral system.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago

If you don’t like losing?

Maybe don’t pick fights with a megacorp with a large proportion of the best litigators in the world in the world on retainer… over deeply unpopular culture war bullshit…. When thst megacorp is one of your state’s top employers and revenue-generators…,

[-] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

"Megacorps" shouldn't be a thing, and corporations should be subordinate to governments. Just not DeSantis.

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

It's the rare example where amoral capitalistic greed can actually lead to a more morally defensible position than the actively horrible ideology against which it is compared. Disney doesn't give a fuck about any human being's particular right to be any version of themselves one way or the other, but they do care about how much money they can make off of the largest swathe of people, and they've done the math and figured they make more money being more accepting than the Republican party.

It is, in fact, a case in which "We believe nothing Lebowski!" is actually preferable to "At least it's an ethos!"

[-] xJREB@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

That's a great analogy via movie quotes if I've ever seen one! Need to rewatch that movie... :)

[-] Dagrothus@reddthat.com 4 points 8 months ago

You're about to be mugged, when suddenly, the mugger is swept up by a tornado! "What a relief!", you think, as you float 100 feet up into the air.

[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Gotta admit. I didn’t have build a wall on the northern border on my bingo card. Canadian drug traffickers everywhere all the sudden. Vivek is something else.

Edit: It’s borderline criminal that no one on his communication staff thought to add “… and make Trudeau pay for it.” He needs to hire more trump staffers.

[-] PrincessLeiasCat@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

You know you’ve run out of shit to bitch about when you start to go after Canada.

[-] BeanGoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 8 months ago

"We've had first Wall yes, but what about Second Wall?"

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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

"Takaways"

I don't think that I will..

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 17 points 8 months ago

Lawrence O'Donnell said nobody is really trying to hit trump because "This is the debate in case trump chokes on a cheeseburger" and I'm still laughing

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

My takeaway is I had a better night not hearing that little ratfucker Ramaswamy talk as quickly as possible.

[-] xerazal@lemmy.zip 10 points 8 months ago

I don't even need to watch it to know it was a shit show.

[-] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago

Are they really losing though?I mean, they control SCOTUS & the House, and plenty of states are still tossups wrt governor.

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[-] wagesj45@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

Maybe it is because I moved from Reddit to /kbin, but I didn't even know they had a third debate. Or maybe it is because this whole Republican primary is such a waste of time. When is the Democratic debate, come to think of it... lol.

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