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The White House reacted to House Speaker Mike Johnson’s (R-La.) new stopgap funding bill Saturday, calling it “extreme.”

“This proposal is just a recipe for more Republican chaos and more shutdowns—full stop,” a statement from White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre read. “With just days left before an Extreme Republican Shutdown—and after shutting down Congress for three weeks after they ousted their own leader—House Republicans are wasting precious time with an unserious proposal that has been panned by members of both parties.”

“An Extreme Republican Shutdown would put critical national security and domestic priorities at risk, including by forcing service members to work without pay,” Jean-Pierre continued. “This comes just days after House Republicans were forced to pull two of their own extreme appropriations bills from the floor—further deepening their dysfunction.”

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[-] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 10 months ago

Is an Extreme Republican Shutdown different than the usual government shutdown?

[-] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 48 points 10 months ago

There are other conceivable sorts of disagreements that might cause a shut down, some much more reasonable. I think it’s fair to call this particular shutdown out for being the result of extremist elements in the Republican Party making absurd demands.

It’s so extreme that even most Republicans outside of the freedom caucus don’t seem to want a shutdown, to the point where the last speaker sacrificed his career to try to avoid one.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

It’s so extreme that even most Republicans outside of the freedom caucus don’t seem to want a shutdown, to the point where the last speaker sacrificed his career to try to avoid one.

this is why we're fucked.

[-] spark947@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

God forbid they compromise with dems, rather than let 8 people stop everything.

[-] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah agreed. One scary thing is that, even if some Republicans wanted to compromise, the political incentives are fucked. People get primaried out of their seat for much less than actively supporting the opposing party against one's own. The two party system is completely broken.

[-] spark947@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Not a fault of the 2 party system. Democrats have no issues being the adults in the room. It's the Republican party that needs to be evaluated. False equivalency and all that.

They are losing elections like crazy, so I guess the system is working.

[-] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

Most Americans, including Republicans, do not want a shutdown, but the democratic mechanisms aren't functioning. There is absolutely a systemic problem with the incentives of a two party system in the US, in conjunction with a primary system where the diehards are much more likely to vote. It rewards extremism.

That said, it is also true that the Republican party is by far worse than Democrats. In fact, one explains the other. I am not claiming the parties are equivalent, so it is just uncharitable to accuse me of false equivalency.

[-] spark947@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

But it is really just 8 extreme republicans. 8 people shutting down everything. It's up to republicans in the house of representatives to boot these guys, even if it means siding with the dems. It's not partisanship. It's loyalty to 8 people.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago

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[-] GombeenSysadmin@feddit.uk 5 points 10 months ago

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[-] TomAwsm@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

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[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

It's good messaging here by the White House.

But otherwise, no.

[-] Szymon@lemmy.ca 21 points 10 months ago

Let the population understand why so many children will be suffering through hunger, cold, and having no presents this holiday season - GOP incompetence.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

It's sponsored by Red Bull.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


“This proposal is just a recipe for more Republican chaos and more shutdowns—full stop,” a statement from White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre read.

“An Extreme Republican Shutdown would put critical national security and domestic priorities at risk, including by forcing service members to work without pay,” Jean-Pierre continued.

“This two-step continuing resolution is a necessary bill to place House Republicans in the best position to fight for conservative victories,” Johnson posted to X, the platform formerly known as Twitter.

Sen. Johnson’s Democratic colleague, Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii), appeared to have a polar opposite reaction to the CR.

“There’s nothing inherently conservative about making simple things super convoluted, and all of this nonsense costs taxpayer money.”

Speaker Johnson’s fellow House Republican, Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) also stated his opposition to the CR.


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[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

"Extreme Republican Shutdown' is never going to stick. No news media is going to use that because it's so obviously partisan. The real trick is to get something that everyone calls it while still obviously framing it on your terms.

I'm thinking something like "The Congressional Chaos Shutdown" would sound fact based while still obviously pinning it on the Republican Comgress.

[-] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago

I disagree, “The Congressional Chaos Shutdown" would pin it on congress as a whole.

There’s a semi-paradoxical fact that most people strongly dislike congress, but have higher opinions of their congressman. They always blame dysfunction on “other people in congress”. I guarantee if you polled republican voters and asked who was in control of congress, a substantial portion would say democrats.

[-] MimicJar@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

That's what they tried to do when McCarthy was ousted, blame it on the Democrats. The majority of those who voted to remove McCarthy, do it was the Democrats that did it. Ignoring of course the actual instigators, Republicans.

[-] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Exactly! Heck, right before he was ousted McCarthy went on TV and blamed Democrats for not passing a budget, despite the fact that 1) McCarthy’s continuing resolution passed primarily with Democrat votes, and 2) Republicans were the ones unable to agree as a party on a budget.

It’s super important to constantly hammer home that all of this dysfunction isn’t “congress”, it’s congressional republicans.

[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago
[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago

I think they should just refer to the people themselves as "Republican Extremists" and leave it at that.

It doesn't make "moderate Republicans" feel bad, and allows them join in hating on the "bad ones" instead of going into full defensive mode. I use quotations because a lot of them like to pretend to be the smart ones sometimes.

It also forces them to mentally associate with other things they hate that are labeled ________ extremists.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Nah, we NEED to drive a wedge between the noncrazies and the crazies. If calling it the MAGA Mess gets the normies angry at the psychos, GOOD!

They're only making room for more and more harm the longer they retain ANY power. Influence is power. They have less influence if they fail to ally.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Why would the “Make America Gay Again” movement be held responsible?

[-] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

When has obviously partisan news ever stopped anyone?

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

My point is that the news that try to be nonpartisan won't use the language. So, always, I guess?

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -3 points 10 months ago

It's super cringe to read...

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago
[-] flipht@kbin.social 13 points 10 months ago

Dems suck at messaging because the entire media apparatus does republicans' work for them.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

I fuckin' love how both liberals and conservatives are absolutely convinced that their side sucks at messaging and that the media companies are biased against them. 🤣

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Who owns the company that’s writing scripts for local news?

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Often, Sinclair.

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