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Billionaires are lining up to eagerly fund Trump’s anti-democratic agenda (www.theguardian.com)

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In the 2020 presidential election cycle, more than $14bn went to federal candidates, party committees, and Super Pacs – double the $7bn doled out in the 2016 cycle. Total giving in 2024 is bound to be much higher.

That money is not supporting US democracy. If anything, that money is contributing to rising Trumpism and neofascism.

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[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 66 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Capitalist markets adore stability, that's why they had to quell that uncharacteristic spate of increased worker leverage a few months back, as employers must retain stable, unilateral authority over the labor market.

Of fucking course they love the idea of an capitalist exploitation loving authoritarian. Why risk the peasants electing some spoiler bleeding heart that would prefer not to stick it to them every 4 years when you can have stable, dependably hyper cruel leadership that is no longer answerable to anyone? Sounds great for quarterly earnings! And at the end of the day, aren't quarterly earnings for private shareholders the very purpose of our American lives?

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 37 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Capitalist markets adore ~~stability~~ predictability,

One minor correction. Stability is predictable but a state of extremes is fine too as long as they can predict it and account for it.

[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago

American “Job Creators” have always been fascists. From the Business Plot, where they made the mistake of asking Smedley Butler to be our Fuhrer, to Henry Ford’s factories in Nazi Germany.

When Trump was whining about the election 24/7, they lost interest. Now that he’s going full-on naked fascist, he’ll have their full support.

[-] Alto@kbin.social 17 points 9 months ago

The fact that Smedley Butler isn't loudly championed as one of the greatest heroes in American history is a god damn travesty

[-] GFGJewbacca@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago

What's even more wild is that he went from being a dedicated supporter of the capitalist establishment, to avowing to tackle it because he saw how damaging it was from the inside. That kind of change requires huge character.

[-] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 9 months ago

Capitalist markets adore stability, that's why they had to quell that uncharacteristic spate of increased worker leverage a few months back, as employers must retain stable, unilateral authority over the labor market.

They aren't doing a very good job:

https://www.businessinsider.com/uaw-strike-contract-raises-pay-details-ford-gm-stellantis-2023-10?op=1

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yet another reason to seek an authoritarian if you're one of our sociopath capitalists.

To quell defiance.

[-] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I don't know who I am.

edit: However, I do know what I'm not. I am not an authoritarian.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Of fucking course they love the idea of an capitalist exploitation loving authoritarian. Why risk the peasants electing some spoiler bleeding heart that would prefer not to stick it to them every 4 years when you can have stable, dependably hyper cruel leadership that is no longer answerable to anyone?

because that capitalist exploitation loving authoritarian's dick is so small that he was comparing the size of his nuclear button to a 3rd-rate tin pot dictator's. Granted, you did answer it in the first sentence:

Capitalist markets adore stability

And Trump is anything but stable. Are some assholes lining up to fund him? sure. they're voting anybody in who'll push their policies in. (and by voting, I mean bribing the fucking hell out of everyone.)

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

They won't care about climate change until a CAT 6 literally obliterates their supply lines to the third world they exploit.

They won't care about nuclear Armageddon until the bombs are literally dropping.

By stability, I meant market stability, meaning shooty shooty quarterly line goes /.

Capitalists have never and will never give shit 1 about the externalities they cause, because they resent the societies they profit from for taking so much as a dollar from them despite their societal damage. Workers daring to strike after they spent decades changing the laws to hobble unions is of far greater concern to them than nuclear Armageddon, because it's personal. It's a defiance of what they see as their kingdom.

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[-] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 4 points 9 months ago

And Trump is anything but stable. Are some assholes lining up to fund him? sure. they're voting anybody in who'll push their policies in. (and by voting, I mean bribing the fucking hell out of everyone.)

Because they're confident that they're isolated from the chaos their policies will bring thanks to their walled communities and private armies. Feudalism 2.0. If the king creates too much chaos and disrupts their income, they'll assassinate him and install a new one.

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[-] Numenor@lemmy.world 43 points 8 months ago

List their names out please

[-] Rottcodd@kbin.social 41 points 8 months ago

Of course they are - they're psychopaths.

They're each and all people who, in a sane society, would be institutionalized in order to protect others from the harm they inevitably do as a consequence of their complete lack of principles, morals, empathy and remorse. But instead they're allowed to run free, and this is what we get.

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 13 points 8 months ago

They've crunched the numbers on fascism and it turns out that a slave workforce you can execute for not hitting KPIs is great for businesses.

[-] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago

Psychopaths? Try Sociopaths.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Por que no los dos?

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[-] zcd@lemmy.ca 28 points 9 months ago

Just hear me out, maybe billionaires should be lined up?

[-] charliespider@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Lined up and taxed back into being millionaires? Sounds good. No need to be a psychopath. You'll have better chances getting people to agree to raising taxes on the rich than you will getting them to agree to murder.

[-] zcd@lemmy.ca 19 points 9 months ago

Liquidating the several thousand billionaires in the world could eliminate world hunger and poverty many times over, and solve the climate crisis. If there was a button that would launch a billionaire into the sun I would press it nonstop

[-] Milksteaks@midwest.social 10 points 9 months ago

The odds of any politician regulating and taxing billionaires is laughable. Itd probably end up being easier to line them up tbh

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[-] Fades@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Yes, I’m quite hungry as it is

[-] Fixbeat@lemmy.ml 25 points 9 months ago

Seems like we would be better off without billionaires.

[-] dumdum666@kbin.social 17 points 9 months ago

The rich also had no problem to fund Hitler - they thought they could control him - you all know how that turned out…

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Some (most?) of them probably didn't care as long as business was good.

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[-] twisted28@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

Ok so here’s what I don’t understand: Trump is claiming he will set up camps for protesters on day one and his followers will murder democrats in cold blood.

Obviously these things are against not only the constitution but against the law. So is he going to suspend the constitution and the law? Can I rob banks during this time and get away without repercussions? Extrajudicial murder? Or is the law only suspended for his actions? That goes against the law so the law would have to be permanently suspended. A nation without laws, that means we would be rent/mortgage free as no one is following the laws; if you see now where this leads, total societal collapse.

[-] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 13 points 8 months ago

It's a bid to return to feudalism, where the strong rule over the weak. Instead of a nation of laws, we return to a nation of men who determine whom the law protects versus who the law binds. They've been working on this for generations, and they've never been closer to success.

[-] twisted28@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

These ideals maybe work when forcing someone to do manual labor but not advanced skills. These aren’t views compatible with modern society. I can’t imagine the world looking kindly upon this. The economy and dollar would crash everyone who can leave, will. Military won’t function. The government wouldn’t function. Everything would fall apart. No food. No gas. And the left has guns too, I don’t understand why red necks think everyone would just go along willingly jfc

[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

I think most of the Republican base don’t consider this as a factor. To them everything would continue on as it is just better and with no liberals, LGBTQ, or minorities.

To the masses, Social Security checks would still flow, Medicaid would cover them when they are sick and disability checks would still come in the mail, roads would be maintained, mail would be delivered cheaply, stocks will remain trustworthy investments, food/water will be safe… Until the liberals are gone, then the funny starts.

The business interests think their regulations will disappear and profits will be made… never mind those other regulations that keep our banking system stable, the power on, and customers roaming around with money in their pockets to spend. For the unscrupulous businesses that will be true, but it will quickly look like the late 1800s with huge monopolies dominating everything… Until a dictator rises to power on the backs of the upset masses and it’s taken away…

But for the elites and the power hungry, they know better. They would rather rule in hell than than serve with angels. They see how a few have total control in Russia, China, NK, etc. They want it too, even if it means they would have no where safe to spend those riches.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

No one has ever accused conservatives of being smart.

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[-] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 6 points 8 months ago

Of course not. They know they have to destroy society as it is before they can rebuild it the way they want it. That's the point. That's why they've been working for seventy years to undermine confidence in the government, so they can justify tearing it down and replacing it with their own vision.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12115-011-9498-4

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[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Can I rob banks during this time and get away without repercussions?

No, that's a crime against the rich, who matter.

Extrajudicial murder?

Depends on your skin color and socioeconomic status.

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[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Why would you want democracy when you can just give your ~~body~~ buddy 5 million dollars to do whatever you want?

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[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This is because they know climate collapse is about to be fully underway and they want to seize power before society completely collapses and there's a power vacuum.

[-] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

Climate collapse they caused no less

[-] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 months ago

America: the best democracy money can buy!

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

we look at their wealth, but their holdings that are just as important. the murdochs have redefined what it is to be evil running the fox network.

[-] Alto@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago

There's a reason the song Evilest Man about Rupert Murdoch exists

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

There's also a reason the song I ain't got no home/old man trump exists

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 4 points 9 months ago

i had never heard of it. thanks!

https://genius.com/King-gizzard-and-the-lizard-wizard-evilest-man-lyrics

[-] gullible@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago

https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?committee_id=C00825851&two_year_transaction_period=2024&min_amount=%242%2C000.00

From the article, here are the big spenders.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 9 months ago

Sometimes I wonder about who these people are that an advertisement for trump will change their mind. You should know what his deal is by now.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago

It's probably more about getting them to vote rather than getting their support. "If you don't vote the Jewish Space Lasers will vaporize your guns!"

[-] politicalincorruption@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

The Oompa Loompa vibes from this picture are next level.

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