They should either be completely separate in content, or unified into one big megathread. No half measures.
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Oh, is that why the general megathread got quieter? Because people started just using the news mega? That's a shame, because I stay far away from the news mega. I swear around half the time that someone here is being a complete asshole and I click on their profile to confirm my suspicion that they're a wrecker, they're just a 90% news mega poster who wandered into their first normal thread for weeks. Idk if most of the people in there are assholes, but most of the worst kind of assholes are in there.
It's definitely not that most in there are assholes but the second part of what you said. It's that the assholes feel safer there and so tend to concentrate there. Since until recently it was mostly just about the news and geopolitics (hence this OP), any communist who is anti-imperialist will fit right in. This is good of course, but it's only one of several other bars that people have to pass to be accepted in the culture of the rest of the site. It meant that people who otherwise would get called out for their bullshit like (for example) transphobia and antiveganism would never get called out for it simply because those topics were almost never delved into, certainly not in the way or to the same degree they are on broader hexbear. When those topics would start coming up to the point that there were disagreements, they would get quickly and understandably shutdown by mods with "don't bring that struggle session shit here."
I'm not saying that any of that is bad on its face, but I think it's an explanation why it tends to be that a lot of the shittier takes seem to be from people who leaked out of the news mega. Someone who was permanently site-wide banned recently after multiple temp bans and warnings on the rest of the site would use obvious alts and go on the newsthread to say things like "once again the news mega is the best part of the site" because they weren't banned there and could get tons of upvotes for saying correctly anti-imperialist things. That just kind of exemplifies what I'm talking about, but it's not the only case.
I love the newsmega and used to read every single comment every day when it was more explicitly focused on world news. Most of the people there, even the ones who mostly only comment there are not assholes. But it's a lot easier for the assholes to hang out there, get a well known positive reputation there, then clash hard when they encounter the rest of hexbear and fail to do self crit. I do not think that's a failing of the news thread, just an unfortunate inevitability of the focused topic.
Some are thinking that it might be time to tell people to stop posting random shit to the news mega
For me, the question is who is some? If it's the community of the news mega then it seems like a sensible way to make sure the news has a place to be discussed without people's personal lives getting in the way. If some isn't the people using the thread, then it seems to me that their sentiment should sought out and thereby their desires be the priority. I.e. moderation should follow how people who use the news mega feel about it. Because for me that makes sense, but why ask me about an enclave @Kaplya@hexbear.net knows so much more about.
Focused discussions about the news seem like they'd be best for the individual articles posted in c/news. We already have that focused discussion and shitposting in the ratios befitting hexbear. I don't think opinions about Ukraine necessarily need to be in the same HTML page as a discussion of literacy rates in the US.
For me, the question is who is some?
It's the same guys who complain about Liam and Alice doing banter on WTYP episodes.
I don't understand why there is even a news megathread at all. Lemmy is a link aggregrator software. Nearly all of the posts on the news megathread are people just posting links. It would make way more sense for people to post news links in the news comm.
Yeah it made sense during the week of the invasion as containment for all the news happening in a tsunami.
I have a very high level of respect of what 72T does as well, and I say give them the keys to the comm, and continue posting the bulletins there.
What do you mean by "give them the keys"? SeventyTwoTrillion is already a mod of c/news.
72 is our Peter now.
I don't feel like I have any real say in this discussion but I wanna throw out that the stuff that gets shared in the news mega (also?) being their own posts would be very nice as a person who browses from another instance. If all that stuff showed up in my subscribed feed, instead of me having to browse huge comment sections, I would be thrilled.
The general megathreads don't show in the pinned section when I'm logged in. The thanksgiving one was the only one I've seen since I think the lemmy integration. I see the News one though.
I like the idea of defining them. Moderate the news thread for more serious discussion, have the megathread be more of a "lounge". Lemmygrad does their megathread once a week, I don't think that's a bad idea - we were going to run out of topics sooner or later anyway lmao.