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Maybe a better person would become a martyr and throw away their official levers of power, but for public comments by a politician in a MAGA-led state, these are probably about as good as you're likely to get.
Meh, if he quit people call him a coward and you get a replacement who is going to be further right wing. (Because you can't hire anyone who won't sign it). The county was damned because the state legislature isn't fighting it. In the end a state can maybe refuse, but counties don't have really any way to stop someone arresting them. Maybe the courts, but I assume a state/federal court would override the county.
It is a bad sign that businesses aren't speaking up though (that I have seen). Orange county is Orlando, and part of Disney World is in it.
I remember something about county people being replaced by DeSantis and nobody being happy about it, but I'm not from there so I don't remember who. If this is them, well,
I'm not saying he should quit and go home and start watching YouTube videos while the world around him collapses into fascism. I'm saying he should fight.
Lots of federal employees did the "Okay, fire me then" game when Trump demanded various things from them. It still takes time, effort, and organization to fill the roles they left behind. It slows things down. You can sue the administration for their blatantly illegal attempt to remove you. You can show up with a megaphone outside the office, now yelling about how it's a power grab. You can do something other than just going along with it.
This isn't even "just following orders," because he clearly knows it's wrong. But, he's still putting people on cattle cars, because they told him if he didn't, he'd lose his job. THE RIGHT ANSWER IN THAT SITUATION IS, EVEN IF NO OTHER OPTION IS AVAILABLE, TO LOSE YOUR FUCKING JOB.
Be like all the other people who resigned or got fired in protest of what our shit government was forcing them to do. The position just gets handed down to the closest marginally qualified person willing to be a lapdog and do whatever they're told.
If the option you're presented with is to sign or be replaced and they have the authority to do it, then it's a shit option to let yourself get replaced when you know you're replacement would be willing to roll over on everything.
Yeah, to be clear, while I wish we lived in a country where resigning out of principal would have a good end result, I think it’s better this guy stays and does what he can, which looks like it will be slow-playing and finding every loophole he can until he gets sued.
Seems most of the people in this comment thread don't understand this and are shitting All over him.
Sadly Lemmy isn't exactly known for being the most nuanced group of people.
If replacing you is the better course, they would do that regardless of your choice. They can keep manufacturing worse and worse ultimatums. They don't just speed run that because there is a danger to unilaterally removing democratically elected officials and they'd rather officials just comply with their desires and maintain the veneer of peace and order. They're boiling frogs all across the nation while the leadership of various government and private institutions decides "it's just one capitulation to preserve my ability to resist later when the real crisis arrives".
You can't be replaced "just because". There are still some rules set in place.
Sure, but those rules can be trivially triggered by just introducing new ultimatums. If they want you out, they can manufacture new reasons endlessly until they decide you have failed.
No. There are only certain orders that are legal ultimatums and this order was above the guy and there was no legal recourse around it. You want someone who tries, or someone who fights nothing?
CAN request. Doesn’t say they have to though…
We have fascists, hard core fascists, and ultrafascists.
So, just regular fascist is a win here, folks!