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Mein Kampf. Apart from being a bad person, Hitler was a terrible writer. Low quality thoughts articulated badly. I only read it so I could nail neonazis when they came at me with their stupid arguments.
Adolf Hitler was a modern-day edgelord and an incel. He didn't have any original thoughts, he stole the ideas from the magazines he read while he was poor and unemployed
It's a good thing people don't act like that any more /s
And when he finally did get laid he got syphilis. Loser.
Modern-day edgelords and incels are...edgelords and incels. Maybe "premodern" would be more accurate? Probably not, I'm not sure.
That was the modern era, we live in the postmodern era.
Was that helpful or necessary in the end? Or was is such trite that you could have done without?
It is extremely babble-minded and not at all worth reading or deconstructing.
I read it in the mindset of your first question.
Turns out, any argument you can think up in 2 seconds against bigotry is going to be more insightful and well-founded than a rebuttal against nascent nazi scribblings.
Well I'll save myself the trouble of being put on some sort of list for reading it then, thanks.
You got it.
I finished it and was like omigod at least nobody I ever come across with the same morbid curiosity has to read this now.
Only way I can look at reading that book not being a complete waste of time.
If nothing else, it's worth it just to see how brain-dead nazism really is. They're not Machiavellian masterminds, they're thugs with an ideology built on brainfarts. Also quoting from the book (in the original German) is a good way to kill a conversation with one of the modern spawn.
Many years ago, I posted about how horribly written it was, and right on cue, a neo-Nazi pipes in asking which translation it was, because apparently all the faithful translations are a Jewish trick, or something...
No reply when I posted the introduction in original German, of course.
Yeah, that's probably the one thing that makes the book almost (ALMOST) worth reading. Using their own tripe against them.
I'm guessing it's the same kinda situation as one having to actually read ‘Atlas Shrugged’ to see for themselves that it's a complete turd of a book.
A Friend of mine with similar political inclination keeps telling me I should read it, for the same "know thy enemy" kind of argument.
I just can't bring myself to it, we all get bombarded enough with that shitty ideology, and have to push it back irl constantly, so I'd love to escape it, a bit, in my downtime.
It does in fact help a little bit, when you see how Rand portrayed the libertarian paradise for which she advocated: where everyone is a genius at the top of their game, and a few dozen of these geniuses build the shiny libertarian utopia. It's juvenile, just like her other literary attempts. The ‘utopia’ wouldn't stand against just a few real-life problems. It's also notable that Rand herself was on social security and Medicaid in her late years.
Furthermore, it's fun to read some of Aleister Crowley, e.g. ‘The Diary of a Drug Fiend’, compare it to Rand's ‘objectivism’, and ponder as to how Crowley was called ‘the most wicked man’ while Rand became the torchbearer of USian unabashed corporatism. At least, Crowley actually could write, had a soul, and was generally a fun man — but he didn't have a Red Scare to ride on.
I listened to parts of it as an audiobook. I felt like I was going insane. Helped me pass the time at work though.
I think it's even worse in German. It comes across as a toddler trying to sound grown up.
I'm always a little bit scared that what I'm listening to will start blasting out of my phone speaker because I forgot to turn on my headset or something.
By the way, one big takeaway of ‘Triumph of the Will’ is that the Nazi rally was extremely fucking boring after the first ten minutes or so. But apparently seven hundred thousand people had nothing better to do than stand and listen to Nazis shout at them for hours.
I'm terrified of that personally
I couldn't get through the first chapter. Utter babbling nonsense. It's not that I disagreed with it, I had no idea what it was supposed to be saying!
It doesn't get better after chapter one haha.
Who recommended it to you?
A friend of mine years ago. He was a history buff so he always tried to help me understand historical things better.