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[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 125 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I'm sure the poster pulled these numbers out of their ass. I wonder what the real numbers would be.

It's guaranteed that replacing MAGA people with the same kind of immigrants we have today would reduce crime, but how much?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago

Yeah, that's my reaction too. I'm guessing over 50% is likely true. The immigrants that make it here in the vast majority of cases is literally because they were hard workers and they came to work. Vs these violent racist shitbags who support trump.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

It's almost impossible to say without really breaking down policing and crime rates by granular particulars that I'm not sure we really track with accuracy, as the US's crime tracking is massively skewed because of things like over-policing, redlining/segregation remnants (an actual nazi on Lemmy actually pulled the 13/50 argument with me today) and of course under-reporting some crimes and over-reporting other crimes. Basically, our criminal justice system is so fucked in America that we can't trust stats... so yeah, OP's image might as well just make numbers up, it's not like we have highly trustworth alternatives.

As for actual numbers, I did find this report from 2023 that seems somewhat reliable, it massively points to white families as the number one perpetrator in crimes against children in the US. (these stats include neglect, which is why women have a higher percentage of perpetration than men.)

Rates of just immigrant criminality have been studied, and as most of us know, it's been shown that immigrants commit far less crime than native populations, and are about 60% less likely to be incarcerated for criminal behavior.

[–] Darcranium@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

The real MVP of this thread

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

It doesn't help that for a lot of minority communities, crimes against children and domestic issues often just go unreported.

I think that's most communities, minority or not. Stats of those nature are wildly underreported in general.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Find some actual numbers then.

[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

It takes no time to make up some bullshit numbers. If every time you come across some obviously bullshit numbers, you have to do all of the research that the bullshitter didn't do, you wouldn't have any time for anything else, and it wouldn't do any good, anyways. You're proposing a completely dominated and losing strategy.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 4 points 3 days ago

agreed, honestly what I would really like someone to do if they are able, get a large enough sample size of ice enforcers names and run background checks. So we can demonstrate side by side the percentage of people with histories of violent offences and property crimes, next to the low percentage of illegal immigrants going out. On a practical level it's obvious how it will pan out, but posting things with "trust me bro".