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[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Yeah because outside of America there are no criminals, there is no crime, it's just a complete paradise in the whole of the world, there's no CJNG, CDS Los Zetas, Boko Haram, Vodou killing almost 200 elderly because "witchcraft,” none of that; there's no countries with Sharia law that still stone women to death for being raped, noooo, and all those women's trials totally have lawyers and are totally fair.

C'mon lmao. I don't like Maga idiots either but they're far from the only criminals in the world.

[–] ADTJ@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah everywhere has criminals but it's not picking people at random from other countries.

The type of people who want to migrate somewhere usually do not want to stir up trouble in their new home.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah there's nothing like MS-13, Sur 13 (Sureños), Cartel De Gulfo, Latin Kings, Nuestra Familia, Norteños, White Fence, Serbian Mafia, Russian Mafia, Italian Mafia (I think they're done now due to RICO but still), Armenian Power, Tren de Aragua, Sun Yee On, 14k, Wo Hop To, Foochow Paul's Green Dragons, Ping On, Ghost Shadows, Flying Dragons, Wah Ching, Black Dragons...

And I guess that the meme is also assuming the local gangs like Crips, Bloods, Piru, GDs and BDs, O Block, FYB, etc are all Trump supporters, which, I mean, wanna bet? I've got $10 right now that says they aren't. Shouldn't even be too hard to find out just make VladTV ask them.

(Side note, Asain gangs have the coolest names by far. And yes I've read/watched a lot about gangs, it's actually pretty interesting stuff despite being, y'know, bad and whatnot.)

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

They're not saying immigrants never commit crimes, but that they commit them at much lower rates than us born citizens.

If you're trying to reduce crime, the effective thing to do is target where it actually is rather than scrounging for crumbs where you would like it to be.

[–] tangonov@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

She's kidding herself if she thinks immigrants have more respect for women but it's a nice thought

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's definitely countries that treat their women better than the average American.

[–] tangonov@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are they the countries that need to emmigrate for a better life?

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Depends on the individuals personal circumstances doesn't it

[–] tangonov@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People from the UK emigrate to the likes of the US and Canada regularly and vice versa. What do you think about them?

[–] tangonov@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Invariably shitty or decent people nonetheless

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Someone hasn't looked at crime statistics at any point in their life.

[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 125 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I'm sure the poster pulled these numbers out of their ass. I wonder what the real numbers would be.

It's guaranteed that replacing MAGA people with the same kind of immigrants we have today would reduce crime, but how much?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago

Yeah, that's my reaction too. I'm guessing over 50% is likely true. The immigrants that make it here in the vast majority of cases is literally because they were hard workers and they came to work. Vs these violent racist shitbags who support trump.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

It's almost impossible to say without really breaking down policing and crime rates by granular particulars that I'm not sure we really track with accuracy, as the US's crime tracking is massively skewed because of things like over-policing, redlining/segregation remnants (an actual nazi on Lemmy actually pulled the 13/50 argument with me today) and of course under-reporting some crimes and over-reporting other crimes. Basically, our criminal justice system is so fucked in America that we can't trust stats... so yeah, OP's image might as well just make numbers up, it's not like we have highly trustworth alternatives.

As for actual numbers, I did find this report from 2023 that seems somewhat reliable, it massively points to white families as the number one perpetrator in crimes against children in the US. (these stats include neglect, which is why women have a higher percentage of perpetration than men.)

Rates of just immigrant criminality have been studied, and as most of us know, it's been shown that immigrants commit far less crime than native populations, and are about 60% less likely to be incarcerated for criminal behavior.

[–] Darcranium@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

The real MVP of this thread

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

It doesn't help that for a lot of minority communities, crimes against children and domestic issues often just go unreported.

I think that's most communities, minority or not. Stats of those nature are wildly underreported in general.

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Find some actual numbers then.

[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

It takes no time to make up some bullshit numbers. If every time you come across some obviously bullshit numbers, you have to do all of the research that the bullshitter didn't do, you wouldn't have any time for anything else, and it wouldn't do any good, anyways. You're proposing a completely dominated and losing strategy.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, this is the sort of insanity some of the dumbest people left-of-center seem to genuinely believe. Or perhaps this is the sort of insanity that sock puppet bots from Russia are spreading to make them look bad.

Don't be like them if you want to make it more probable that your side wins.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

No one actually believes this, they just say it on the internet and it gets upvoted.

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I might have blocked her at this point - I used to see Annie's posts constantly. She's absolutely right, I just can not STAND the Facebook Boomer style of images she posts.

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I honestly can't comprehend the concept of posting an image of just text on a microblogging website... Unless maybe it's reshared, but still. I guess everything to try to grasp the fleeting attention these days, all down hill from here.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why only MAGA men? Why do the MAGAets get a free pass?

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Physical and sexual violence are VASTLY more prevelant from men than from women. And the sort of people who support hateful ideologies like MAGA are by and large, awful people. So while MAGAets might be awful people on average, they're not committing near as much violence.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, reported anyway, domestic violence from women is still a joke to most people and sometimes even celebrated, people loved Cardi B drugging and robbing men, men who try to report rape are laughed at and called gay for not enjoying it, if you can even report them because in many states (like my state) rape requires penetration so the worst a woman can be charged with legally speaking is "sexual assault."

It's still probably more men than women, but it's not as little of a problem from women as our numbers and common perception would have you believe, it's just that nobody gives a fuck when the attacker is a girl/woman and the victim is male. I wouldn't know, it's not like I've been raped twice by two different women or anything (because in my state, legally speaking, it was "only" sexual assault. Don't worry though, those women will never be charged with that either, they're free to continue sexually assaulting).

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's horrifying, I'm so sorry that you've lived through that. I said lower on purpose, I CERTAINLY didn't mean zero - because I absolutely know it happens still.

I felt like the world was getting less toxic and this vile but common social reaction was improving. Like, the 80s or 90s vs the late 2010s felt like society had made massive improvement here. But everything's more fucked right now and people are more unabashedly shitty than ever in our lifetimes, I'm sure we're worse off today and will be for a while now.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Couldn't agree more lol.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So being a fascist is forgivable for women, gotcha.

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fascist women aren't committing the same level of domestic violence as the men, which is directly relevant to the specific claim the post made. I'm not making a moral judgement or statement, just directly addressing the post while you're having some other off topic argument with yourself I guess.

Calling out base sexism isn't off topic

[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 56 points 3 days ago (4 children)

But then who would get all the DUIs? Checkmate libs!

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[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let's just deport all MAGAts. They're easily replaceable, seeing as how they're worthless.

Then people will be standing in line for years to get in to this place. Oh man, sign me the fuck up.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Yeah but who would want them.

[–] brognak@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hear the ocean has a lot of open building space, just drop them in the middle and watch them try and pull their Atlantian empire up by the bootstraps.

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[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Why stop at age 50? Go all the way.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 32 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I assume (or at least, I hope) that they're basing this on some kind of violent crime rate statistics, hence the cut-off.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (12 children)

It would be nice to include a source for posts like this, to help prevent it being labeled as propaganda if the numbers are legit.

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I for one would gladly trade Magatards for immigrants any day.

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