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[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 24 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Seriously?

Joules are the SI unit for energy measurement. 1 Joule = 1 Watt second, so 3600 Joules = 1 Watt Hour

They teach this in middle school.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Ok, but when it comes to electrical energy nobody uses "watt seconds" in the real world. Devices use hundreds of watts, and run for minutes and hours. Dividing by 3.6 million isn't exactly easy mental math to get the unit (kWh) we all see on our electric bills.

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

nobody uses “watt seconds”

Joules. They don’t say watt seconds because they say joules.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

But they don't use that either in the context of real-world electricity usage. Maybe in the middle school classroom setting, when you can make up the numbers you work with, but when I'm trying to quantify how much energy something uses at home I multiply how many watts it uses by now many hours it's running. Divide that by 1000 for kilowatt-hours, and multiply by $.11 to know the cost to do it at home. If I need to do a multiplication/division of 3.6 million when nobody else is, something's not right.

Similarly, a meter is a standard unit for length, but we don't use it when measuring the distance to different galaxies because light-years are more practical at that scale. If you start using meters you'd get some funny looks, just as I'm feeling for joules instead of kilowatt-hours. But you know, "almost a kilowatt-hour" makes for a pretty boring headline.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago

Also, you'll notice that I specifically mentioned electrical energy. Electrical power is almost universally measured in watts, the product of voltage and current, not joules per second (even if that's the same thing). So going from instantaneous power measurements to energy accumulated over time, it's not crazy to use the term "watt second" the way one would use "kilowatt hour"... Even if that's also called a "Joule"

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's true, but joules typically isn't used today. When people talk about energy consumption it's almost always in watts or watt-hours. I've seen/heard people use joules less than 5 times since college.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

a human consumes about 8 MJ of chemical energy per day.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

that's not what i meant.

now they have heard it 6 times used.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

Oh! Well, Sam Altman basically used this to try to defend AI energy usage. Training a human takes a lot of energy and water, after all. I don't think he realized this made him sound like a fucking supervillain.