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"All Muslims should show absolute loyalty to the Saudis because we hold 2 Holy cities"
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Quote tweet https://x.com/aiishadahir/status/2037894983592620112
This is precisely why Makkah and Madinah should be sovereign entities, similar to the Vatican, where no single nation can claim them as property or political tool.
Imagine Italy demanding support from all cotholics because they have Rome lmao 
Am I wrong in understanding Shia are descendants of Mohammed, Sunni aren't? Can you please give a little more information on the difference, 3D or imagined?
i am not an expert by any means but i believe every branch of Islam would consider themselves the true successor of the prophet. the schism that divides Shi'a and Sunni Muslims occurred relatively soon after the founding of the religion, like a century or two out. also important to note that neither major branch is a monolith, there are quite disparate traditions within both branches.
I am also not an expert (would it be inappropriate to @ping a Muslim comrade to ask?) but @Maeve@kbin.earth is correct in saying that Shi'a Muslims believe that it is the direct descendants of Muhammad who are the divinely guided leaders of Islam. The first being Ali ibn Abi Talib, Muhammad’s son-in-law and the first Imam who is the figure that was at the center of the Sunni-Shi'a divide. Sunnis do not accept that leadership was meant to stay in a hereditary line through Ali’s family. They generally see the early succession as a matter for the Muslim community to decide. Which meant that back at the time of the division, Sunnis saw Abu Bakr as the first caliph.
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Less than a century or two! The issue of succession that defined the split was essentially immediately after the death of the prophet Muhammad.
Thanks for confirming that. I'm not sure where I heard (or most likely read) it, but it's interesting, since the prophet and his fil were close, from my very sketchy understanding. I'm not sure who to ping, I'm hoping our more knowledgeable comrades will read and be inclined to shed a little more light on the subject.
Well that part I know but I'm extremely and embarrassingly ignorant on there history of Islam. I'm willing to learn, though. And thanks so much for an honest answer.
Some of this is more fresh in my mind because I recently listened to a new episode of Revolutionary Left (RevLeft) Radio that gets into it: From Persia to Iran: Islam, Empire, and the Politics of West Asia. You might want to give a listen. The guest is Adnan Husain ("Professor of Medieval history and Chair of the Religious Studies department at Queens college") who also hosted the Guerilla History podcast. Anyway, they talk quite a bit in good depth about the history of Islam. The stuff I mentioned in my other comment I already mostly knew about, but there was a lot more in this episode that I learned. They also discuss the relevance of this deep history with respect to the current war the Great Satan and the Entity are waging against Iran.
Oh cool, hopefully I can listen while doing stuff tomorrow, since my all day bellyache is finally subsiding! Bookmark, thanks so much!
You're very welcome. 🫡 And sorry to hear you were in pain, glad of course it's improving though. Be well, comrade!
Thanks so much! It's my own fault, I didn't eat enough raw veggies.
Can't skimp on the
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