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This is precisely why Makkah and Madinah should be sovereign entities, similar to the Vatican, where no single nation can claim them as property or political tool.

Imagine Italy demanding support from all cotholics because they have Rome lmao anti-italian-action

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[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 51 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My favorite part of the Quran is where Muhammad talks about the importance of tourism in Saudi Arabia

[–] Lenins_Dumbbell@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 2 points 9 hours ago

Text version for accessibility:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen." The People said, "And also on our Najd." He said, "O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham (north)! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen." The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! And also on our Najd." I think the third time the Prophet (ﷺ) said, "There (in Najd) is the place of earthquakes and afflictions and from there comes out the side of the head of Satan."

(Sahih al-Bukhari 7094)

Najd is a historical region of the Arabian Peninsula that includes most of the central region of Saudi Arabia.

[–] Torenico@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Also he said that numerous sporting events, including those of UEFA origin as well as the World Cup, should be played in that Kingdom!

[–] GeckoChamber@hexbear.net 61 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ethics aside, it's pretty impressive that the Saudi Tourism Board managed to broker that deal with God

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No kidding. Greatest trade deal in the history of trade deals, Saudi becoming the metropole of Islam

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

God's pretty chill

I asked him if I should eat a box of peeps for lunch and he didn't say no, so I went ahead and did it

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

that's funny, i asked him if i should murder everyone in the county and he didn't say yes so i stayed home.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not a Muslim, but this sounds like blasphemy to me.

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 day ago

Saudis upset because everyone in the arab world absolutely despises them

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

there's probably more direct ways to ask for trouble but this will probably work.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I'm sure insisting that their western puppet state currently in charge of the holiest site in Islam is eternal and vital for all Muslims to worship (and give money to) will go over really well.

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago

Very clever of the western bourgeoisie to ensure control of all three major monotheistic religions and ability to call anyone acting too harshly against them an infidel, anti-semite, or devil worshiping Christ hater respectively with real authority.

Kind of depressing too.

[–] MerryJaneDoe@hexbear.net 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Imagine Italy demanding support from all cotholics because they have Rome

Can't tell if you're making a deadpan joke or if you are serious. But for the record, that's pretty much been exactly the case for most of history.

Pope John Paul II (Karol Józef Wojtyła) was the first non-Italian pope in over 450 years, elected on October 16, 1978. Since that time, of course, popes have come from all over the globe.

Last time fascism rose, Mussolini proclaimed the Catholic Church as the official religion of Italy. The Church was happy to oblige.

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 4 points 15 hours ago

(One of) the best part of the new Indiana Jones game, going to the Vatican and beating Nazis to death with your bare hands while priests talk about it it’s blasphemy for the church to support the Nazis

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago

all three of them

joey "hitler youth" ratz

frankie "goodfora" pope

and the chicago glizzy

[–] MineDayOff@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

And the Polish rejoiced

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So is Saudi Arabia trying to become the Israel of Muslims?

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 day ago

Always has been

[–] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That already exists, it's called Bahrain and Kuwait

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

there's no way that's not considered an extreme heresy by most non-saudi muslims, right? like, as far as i understand things, they seem to be claiming that the house of saud is the true successor to Muhammed.

[–] ThermonuclearHoxha@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Disclaimer: Non-Muslim

Technically, nothing he actually said is wrong — every Muslim has to face the Qaaba when praying, and visit it in the Hajj at least once in their lifetime if they can. It's only in the implication of today's geopolitics from the context (see replies) that the Iranian government is the antichrist (Dajjal) and that the Saudi government is safe which is troubling.

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

right, that's the part i was referring to. i'm aware of the importance of facing the Qaaba and the pillar of Hajj. it is the limitation of describing these pillars in the form of facing and visiting Saudi Arabia, which to my lay eyes seems like putting the geopolitical entity above the prophet.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Am I wrong in understanding Shia are descendants of Mohammed, Sunni aren't? Can you please give a little more information on the difference, 3D or imagined?

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i am not an expert by any means but i believe every branch of Islam would consider themselves the true successor of the prophet. the schism that divides Shi'a and Sunni Muslims occurred relatively soon after the founding of the religion, like a century or two out. also important to note that neither major branch is a monolith, there are quite disparate traditions within both branches.

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I am also not an expert (would it be inappropriate to @ping a Muslim comrade to ask?) but @Maeve@kbin.earth is correct in saying that Shi'a Muslims believe that it is the direct descendants of Muhammad who are the divinely guided leaders of Islam. The first being Ali ibn Abi Talib, Muhammad’s son-in-law and the first Imam who is the figure that was at the center of the Sunni-Shi'a divide. Sunnis do not accept that leadership was meant to stay in a hereditary line through Ali’s family. They generally see the early succession as a matter for the Muslim community to decide. Which meant that back at the time of the division, Sunnis saw Abu Bakr as the first caliph.

Edit to add:

the schism that divides Shi'a and Sunni Muslims occurred relatively soon after the founding of the religion, like a century or two out.

Less than a century or two! The issue of succession that defined the split was essentially immediately after the death of the prophet Muhammad.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 6 points 1 day ago

Thanks for confirming that. I'm not sure where I heard (or most likely read) it, but it's interesting, since the prophet and his fil were close, from my very sketchy understanding. I'm not sure who to ping, I'm hoping our more knowledgeable comrades will read and be inclined to shed a little more light on the subject.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

there are quite disparate traditions within both branches.

Well that part I know but I'm extremely and embarrassingly ignorant on there history of Islam. I'm willing to learn, though. And thanks so much for an honest answer.

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some of this is more fresh in my mind because I recently listened to a new episode of Revolutionary Left (RevLeft) Radio that gets into it: From Persia to Iran: Islam, Empire, and the Politics of West Asia. You might want to give a listen. The guest is Adnan Husain ("Professor of Medieval history and Chair of the Religious Studies department at Queens college") who also hosted the Guerilla History podcast. Anyway, they talk quite a bit in good depth about the history of Islam. The stuff I mentioned in my other comment I already mostly knew about, but there was a lot more in this episode that I learned. They also discuss the relevance of this deep history with respect to the current war the Great Satan and the Entity are waging against Iran.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh cool, hopefully I can listen while doing stuff tomorrow, since my all day bellyache is finally subsiding! Bookmark, thanks so much!

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're very welcome. 🫡 And sorry to hear you were in pain, glad of course it's improving though. Be well, comrade!

heart-sickle

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks so much! It's my own fault, I didn't eat enough raw veggies.

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

Can't skimp on the greensicko !

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 day ago

this is the type of stupid shit you'd hear from your average Western chud starting off with a "did you know?" bit, but sadly it's a rhetoric FULLY embraced by a concerning number of Saudis..

They should've held loyalty to the Ottoman empire by that logic

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

Trump: "He [Saudi Arabia's MBS] didn't think he'd be kissing my ass... But now he has to be nice to me. You tell him he'd better be nice to me.

https://nitter.net/tparsi/status/2037830081003786399

so like, now trump behind is also holy?