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[-] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 52 points 6 months ago

The best explanation I've heard is that it's similar to the stats for left-handed people. Way back in the day, almost no one "identified" as being left-handed. But once the stigma against left-handedness was eliminated, the numbers went up.

So in other words, yes, it's a reflection of LGBTQ+ becoming more acceptable, particularly among Gen Z. There could be other factors, but that's probably the main one.

[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

28% seems huge, though. Are there any other animals like that? I'm kind of confused how it's that high even with acceptance lol.

[-] vind@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago

Most male dogs hump your leg regardless of who you are

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Male ducks will even do necrophilia with other males.

[-] 24_at_the_withers@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I get your point, but "most"? I've had 5 male dogs of my own over 40-ish years, and have known or met many, many others and I've never once had my leg humped.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago

Most (male dogs that hump)

[-] vind@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Maybe they don't think you're hot enough /s

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago

It’s mostly bisexuals. You know like Julius Caesar, Alexander of Macedon, and large swaths of people in cultures where same gender romance or sex is acceptable in certain circumstances so long as you also marry and have children.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 11 points 6 months ago

Julius Caesar, described by a contemporary as "Every woman's man, and every man's woman"

We stan a bicon in this house

[-] Welt@lazysoci.al 1 points 6 months ago

Shakespeare too

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Is there data to back that claim up?

Not arguing but also something I hadn't heard before. That there has been an absolutely massive increase in # of people identifying as bi and that that is the majority of LGBTQ+

[-] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 20 points 6 months ago

Yes. Bonobos.

Human appear to be about halfway between chimps and bonobos on the primate spectrum. The violence of chimps combined with the fluid sexual social habits of bonobos lol

https://phys.org/news/2019-09-insights-same-sex-sexual-interactions-important.amp

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

The article pointed out that the same sex encounters were only high for females, idk if that’s that similar to humans.

[-] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 19 points 6 months ago

We are the only animal with cultural locks on gender expression. If we didn't have such hang ups about gender norms we would not really notice someone being LGBT. Paradoxically the more regressive and strict people are about gender roles the more people you have that don't fit within those gender roles.

[-] spaduf@slrpnk.net 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Theres long been a camp that argues the vast majority of people are bisexual (myself included). That's also where pretty much all of the recent growth comes from. Interestingly, most of that comes from bisexual women, while bisexual men consistently self report at levels lower than gay men.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

There are lots of men who identify as straight but have sex with other men. So much so that medical literature often uses MSM as a category instead of gay. There’s an entire DL subculture among African American men.

Anywhere you go you can download Grindr and find oodles of guys who are in heterosexual marriages. The stigma is pretty strong, they probably can’t even internally recognize themselves as somewhat bisexual.

[-] spaduf@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This is particularly relevant as it relates to how silly this topic and its reactions are. We absolutely KNOW that the current number is an undercount, and yet it's still really hard for people to grasp that the percentage is that high.

[-] Syrc@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I mean, sexuality is a spectrum. It’s statistically unlikely that a large part of the population is at the exact borders of the spectrum and not even slightly in between.

Especially since afaik physical attraction is just a matter of appearance, and there’s very masculine women or very feminine men.

[-] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

Part acceptance, part widening the net of what's included in the category.

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