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[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I cannot understand this obsession with physical location work for non blue collar workers unless your assets are tied to real estate speculation lol

If I was a CEO, I would be fucking delighted that my workers are choosing to use their own property to generate profit for me. I would save so much money by not having to have a giant office, parking space, consume electricity, and a bunch of electronics

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It means giving up control and thus the ability to keep workers in line.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

It gives up one form of control but exchanges it for another. The flock of middle managers don't get to pop in and watch 20 people to make sure they're at their desks and look at their screens and give pointless little instructions for everyone else to see and haggle about the coffee maker, sure. But remote workers can also barely communicate with one another without using official, recordable company resources. This is a boon to office job union busters, they can just search for "union" in their Slack instance's private messages and channels and fire the troublemakers.

I'd like to toss an explanation on top of real estate interests and wanting control: CEOs are petty, megalomaniacal idiots that work against their own interests on a regular basis and are constantly rewarded for it by the bureaucratic structure of the company.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Other than the massive risk of long term illness or death due to covid I actually kinda like being in office. It makes it easier to complain to my coworkers about how management is risking our lives by making us come back to the office.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I kind of prefer being in my office as well, but that’s because I like my managers and coworkers. But it’s clear that so many people don’t like one or the other and these annoying CEOs want to convince people that no, you actually like the office all the time

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Mental well-being wise, I personally do get cabin fever working from home. Better than covid fever but if I had my druthers I'd have neither. Commuting also sucks though. Ideally I'd work in an office 2 minutes by foot from my home in a society with no plagues. Also it would be communist.

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

unless your assets are tied to real estate speculation lol

That's it, that's the entirety of it.

[–] Maven 37 points 1 year ago

Why the fuck would I have any attachment to a company that has no attachment to me? Eat dicks.

[–] Tommasi@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have lots of passion and creativity, but I'm not wasting it on work lol

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

I put passion and creativity into figuring out how to do the same work in less time and with less effort.

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I suspect there a bit of a civil war in corporate upper management right now over work from home. Some people probably love it, it makes it easier to pull talent in since you're not limited to people who live/can move to the area your company is, and you can employ people in locations with lower cost of living and justify paying them less. Meanwhile other middle managers fucking hate it cuz they can't be little tyrants and it makes it increasingly obvious that they're redundant.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

In videogame companies one of the tactics I saw employers use is to put the offices in the middle of fucking nowhere then have people move to the tiny ass out of the way location in buttfuck nowhere to work. This forces them into a state of 24/7 work because they often share housing with other employees and have literally nothing else to do in the area except socialise with one another. Having them living with each other also creates social pressures on them all about leaving and potentially fucking over housemates with debts or bills they can't afford.

The outcome of this is that it functionally makes their entire lives revolve around work.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's insidious. Really incredibly unhealthy for the employees and causes massive burnout in the first 1 or 2 years. The thing is that the employees that then survive this shit are usually the most indoctrinated so they're easiest to control and build toxic corporate work cultures around.

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

so that's why Epic (not the video game company) only hires in Madison WI

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, some of them have commercial real estate portfolios and those are damaged by working from home

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

not to mention our entire economy depends on the real estate bubble and this is killing it

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

Your creative juices just don't work without being in a soulless corporate environment. You don't understand, a 2x2 cubicle in an open plan office with motivational cats on the wall and a passive aggressive note on the fridge is the optimal setting for creativity.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Look, if the West won't offer me remote, I bet there's Russian and Chinese firms that will. And I'll gleefully take those jobs over working for sociopathic cracker Westerners.

[–] Lerios@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

no attachment, no passion, no creativity

i have attachment to the fact that you pay me, i'm passionate about getting fucking paid, and i'm creative about how little work i can get away with doing while still taking your fucking money

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

You’re not taking his money, you’re minimizing the surplus value he’s extracting from you.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He is correct. I have no attachment or passion or creativity for my job. I do it for the money. If you want attachment, hire my friends and give us time to interact. If you want passion, change the work to something else which I am passionate about. If you want creativity, give me free reins.
None of this will happen, because it is a job, and doing so would be unprofitable. Do not then be surprised when all I care about is money as well.

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Silly comrade. The guillotine goes on his neck not his face.

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But without a cranial cross section how will we count the brain worms and measure soup viscosity? Think of the science!

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

You make a compelling argument.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They all have the same stare, that empty look that says they're just mentally calculating the extractible value of your labor, advertising data and organs when they look at you.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

black eyes. like a doll's eyes

Eat The Rich did an exposé on this ghoul, he is beyond saving.

[–] Graphite22@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

not having a head is bad for your mental health too

[–] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hieronimus? This fucker even has the name of a fantasy supervillain. Shut the fuck up, ghoul.

[–] Nachorella 11 points 1 year ago

So nice of them to care about the mental health of workers 🤗

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

No no no, seize him... And the means of production while we're at it

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Could any of these problems be down to the fact that we've been starting and ending every day by ritually lathering our heads and bodies with toxic chemicals and microplastics?

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How much does validating their massive waste of office space goes into their tax write off / public subsidy scheme?

Isn't that McDonald's schtick? They get to claim the deterioration of the property as a loss so it counts against profit. I'm bastardizing it but that was their idea.

[–] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

I imagine being creative at a place like L'Oreal is finding new ways to make bottles use less material, look bigger, include less actual product inside while also being seductive to the point where I'm thinking about making love to that bottle.

[–] iByteABit@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

It will work against them over time as people get more effective in union work through real life communication

In office work dramatically increases the risk of contracting covid, a disease which carries a high incidence of disabling people and generally giving them chronic health problems. Forcibly exposing the proletariat to covid is just a new strategy in the establoshed polich of deliberately torturing and murdering us on the part of the capitalists. In-person work should be abolished.

If you're such a business genius, sell us attachment, passion, and creativity. ~~I can't imagine someone who's challenger in League of Legends to show up to worlds to talk about how dogshit the player base is~~

I can't imagine someone who's-

I just had a realization. This is the same impulse anybody who's farmed out a bullshit ladder has to complain about everyone else on that ladder.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

as opposed to the thrilling, colorful, inspiring work that comes with so much creativity