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A Mississippi man accused of destroying a statue of a pagan idol at Iowa’s state Capitol is now being charged with a hate crime.

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[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ain’t it a bitch when OTHERS use the right you thought only you’d be able to use? What a dumbass.

[–] machinin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Many Christians probably believe that these laws were made for everyone except them. If you go to more conservative sites discussing the matter, they would probably be asking why people aren't charged for hate crimes against Christians. It's part of their persecution complex.

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

"Charged with a hate crime for what?"

"For saying Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas! Starbucks changed to just a red cup so that's a hate crime too! Schools are trying to stop coaches from making kids on their teams pray! And trans people exist! Hate crimes!!"

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

If the ghouls completely take over it will be only them who use these laws

[–] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FAFO...mess with the goat and you get the horns.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago

Are you familiar with PAGANism? We offer goat leggings, discrete occult rituals and the virgin Connie Swail.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My guess is somebody clued them in that if they didn't hit this guy with a hate crime then there would be precedent to protect people from hate crime status for crimes against Christian property.

That's not really how precedent works. Not choosing to charge him with a hate crime would be a matter of prosecutorial discretion, and wouldn't affect other prosecutors' charging decisions. You better believe if you took a shit on whatever jeebus monument they have at the Mississippi Capitol they'd put you under the jail with every imaginable charge.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago
[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We’ve long since come full circle (well, I guess half circle). The satanists embody virtue and the christians evil.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That's always been the case. The only people who think that Satanists actually worship satan are idiots.

Every single Satanist i've ever met, and I haven't met a lot I admit, are just nice people who don't understand why the church is so powerful considering all the crimes they've covered up over the years. Especially considering that practically every single "Christian" democracy claims to separate church and state.

idiots

You aren't going to find a bunch of geniuses praying to a dead jew on a stick to come back from the dead.

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[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"No not like that"

  • The religious freedom crowd

Wait, who?

The "religious freedom" crowd are the ones who want the freedom to grift and sow divisiveness among their brain-dead sheep, I mean pawns, I mean congregants.

[–] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

she has accused the Satanic Temple of making filings that “are only meant to evoke strong emotions and incite others.”

Uh yeah, it isn't a secret or anything.

What's next? Is she going to say "I don't think they actually believe in Baphomet either!"

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

“How dare you sue me for the crimes you passively goaded me into committing in your attempt to prove the value of the law”

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a Satanist myself, I honestly think that would/should be their lawyers case.

We are atheists and the argument that we're not really a religion is something conservative courts might believe.

I haven’t looked into any filings for religious exemption/status, etc so I’m not sure how we've made our case in the past. I think we should be prepared to advocate that our mutual belief in the seven tenets is our religion.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Here in Germany religions and world-views have equal status, and if Baphomet is a symbol of your specific brand of atheism and its values then desecrating it is, well, desecration: An insult of those values.

Zen folks also aren't religious in the western understanding, the whole distinction is a western construct, yet I don't doubt burning down a Zen temple would be considered a hate crime even by Christians.

From what I understand the legal situation in the US is actually similar. When people started the Sudburry school they had a look at the options and went straight-ahead for making it a denominational school as it offered the best conditions and flexibility. They specifically created a humanist creed just for that founding.

Push come to shove, lessons to learn? More architecture, more fancy robes and chants.

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[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] some_guy 6 points 1 year ago

It's charged as a felony. I believe someone said there was minimum jail time of around two years.

Reminder to donate to the Satanic Temple. They fight christian idiots with things like holiday decorations of Baphomet on state land. Fund them enough and we'll get another one or more of these insecure god-thumpers locked up next year.

[–] lem_dart@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah the beauty of TST... Laid a trap and some moron took the bait. I'm sure they had to do it because "persecution" or something like that.

Trapping christians is like shooting fish in a barrel. Since childhood they've been punished for critical thinking and rewarded for public displays of religious intolerance and ignorance.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Don't you guys get it? He HAD to destroy it to make sky daddy happy smh

[–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good opportunity to spread the word:

Hail Satan? Is a great documentary about TST, highly encouraged to watch.

[–] Weirdfish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Girlfriend and I have been members for years, haven't seen this yet. Will check it out tonight.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

So. Fucking. Based.

[–] Bluetooth@feddit.dk 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

And the Cristian wack jobs are in full force donating to his legal defense. Already at 116.000 usd, with completely normal and not at all fanatic comments, like "_ May God punish the foul souls bringing charges against you! There is a higher law than man made law, and you are upon that law. God bless you and keep you._". Abhorrent behavior...

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

God damn, I wish I didn't have morals and a conscience... With my knowledge of religion and the scriptures I could be making BANK milking the gullible.

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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Take note dumb shits.

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hail Satan. May justice be done in accordance with law.

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[–] Jubei_K_08@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Triggered into entering the felon list by some pool noodles and some lights 😂

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Christians are immune to irony.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

They're not immune to it. They're just irony deficient. Their body can't process it. It goes into violent spasms.

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[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (15 children)

The display is working as intended then.

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