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submitted 10 months ago by breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca to c/world@lemmy.world

Russia’s elections commission has said it found “dead souls” among the more than 100,000 signatures of support submitted by Boris Nadezhdin, the sole anti-war candidate in next month’s presidential election, in a sign that he could be disqualified from a carefully managed ballot meant to deliver victory for Vladimir Putin.

Nadezhdin, a veteran politician who has associated with Kremlin insiders and the opposition to Putin, has been waging a last-minute campaign to get on the ballot for the election, with thousands of Russians standing for hours in the freezing cold to add their signature in his support.

While Nadezhdin has not yet been disqualified, Friday’s briefing at the central elections commission indicated that he could be removed in the run-up to the vote. He has been summoned to the commission on Monday for a review of the “errors” among his signatures.

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[-] Norgur@kbin.social 129 points 10 months ago

"you have error in documents"

"What would that be?"

"In field 'name' is not 'Vladimir Putin'. Grave error in documents, we cannot accept"

[-] sobriquet@aussie.zone 121 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

“There’s dead man’s signatures on this paper”

“What do you mean? They’re all standing right here in front of you”

bang bang bang

“See? Three dead man’s signatures”

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 10 months ago

I was seriously wondering how many conscripts might have signed before getting killed in Ukraine.

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[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 74 points 10 months ago
[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

what's even more convenient is they submitted them on the 48th floor... where the windows are well tended and open easily.

[-] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago

Was the error that he filed the paperwork to run as president?

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago

Nah, he failed to fall out of a window.

[-] smeenz@lemmy.nz 4 points 10 months ago

Some of the names that support him are apparently from dead people.

Unclear whether they were dead before Putin's people identified them.

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[-] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago

Welp I guess there goes another window. Also, I would like to mention that the same game plan is being used by Putin as Cheeto Mussolini was trying to do.

2 peas blah blah blah. You get it.

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[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago

Quelle surprise!

[-] iarigby@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

Doing this to the puppet “opponent” that they themselves came up with, to create an illusion that he’s a real candidate… So messed up, they’re laughing in people’s faces

[-] Korne127@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The puppet opponent that's openly against the war?

[-] summerof69@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago

Yes. Real opponents that are against the war are either imprisoned or abroad. He might be getting out of control, but not for long.

[-] iarigby@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

It’s a commonly known fact. I was surprised that people here didn’t know.

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[-] theodewere@kbin.social 26 points 10 months ago

this will not be a surprise for Nadezhdin and his team.. i'm sure they have been expecting this fight from the beginning, although they didn't expect to have as much support behind them going into it..

[-] remotelove@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago

There was never going to be any fight and there was never going to be an election with more than one person on the ballot.

It's illegal to say anything bad about the government, the military or Putin. Anything you say against them could be construed as misinformation, which is also illegal.

Any other candidates would need to be approved by the Kremlin so they could at least campaign. Oh, did I say the Kremlin? I meant Putin.

[-] mea_rah@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Obviously Putin is going to get 105% of the votes. There's no winning if you're not Putin.

But this is still quite a disaster for Putin as the collected votes are the closest thing to citizens expressing their real opinion on Putin.

That's why they are trying to present the signatures as illegitimate. It's not that they are afraid of losing elections to the opposition. It's the fact that the opposition got such a support that is problem.

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[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago

A minor correction: His guys brought the max of 105 000 (from 200k+) signatures and the margin of error is set to 5%. Izbirkom spoke about two candidates at that time when they summoned them. Earlier a state official incorrectly stated that the ballot of 5 signatures can't be brought with just one. Also, Izbirkom is said to use LLM to detect fake signatures lmao.

Yet, they can make up everything and has all tools to do so. I'm just curious what would they pick. And a brief wind of hope they wouldn't be able to, just for the sake of legitimization since that guy in the world news.

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[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago

"Dead souls"... were they dead before patinas investigators identified them?

[-] fidodo@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

How kind of them. They're trying to save him from mysteriously falling out of a window.

[-] Flying_Dutch_Rudder@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

If I ever ran opposed to Putin, I would never leave the ground floor. Can fall out of a window that’s 5 feet off the ground. Stairs just wouldn’t exist in my world.

[-] smeenz@lemmy.nz 3 points 10 months ago

Let me introduce you to "basements"

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What an earth do these people think is going on? Does he think Russia is an actual democracy and that he stands even a remote chance of not only winning, but being allowed on the ballot?

If this guy actually turns up to this meeting on Monday there's a 95% probability he's going to be dead by the end of the day. I hope he knows that.

[-] gerryflap@feddit.nl 43 points 10 months ago

If you give up you'll never achieve anything. This guy is a hero. He puts himself in danger just to show that there's still people out there willing to stand against Putin. It gives the Kremlin a headache because they have to come up with some bullshit reason again to ban him from participating. It reminds all the Russians how their system is not a real democracy. He doesn't stand a chance to actually win, but it still communicates to everyone that there's plenty of people in Russia who support change.

[-] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 7 points 10 months ago

Yeah I think this is the most likely explanation, like surely he knows he can’t win but he is a symbol that there is still opposition to Putin.

[-] piecat@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

And if he dies he's a martyr. Usually takes an event like that to knock the dominoes.

[-] occhionaut@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I fully believe he is a Kremlin plant made specifically to encourage citizens with dissident opinions to step into the open.

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[-] badbytes@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Usually the errors Putin's opponents have, is falling off tall buildings.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

I imagine the issue was with his Death Certificate it was filed, but the state sponsored hitman is taking his time.

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[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago

This is interesting.

It's widely assumed that Putin has various measures to ensure he'll win no matter who runs against him.

This could be an indication that he's unpopular enough that even these measures won't be enough to ensure he'll win.

[-] uis@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Same happened 6 years ago.

Also there was poll last year what maximum age should be for presidency. 60% are against 70 years or older president. Bunker Rat is 71.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 10 months ago

I'm sure there were videos a few years back of goons openly shoving piles of paper into the ballot boxes.

Like, not even smart enough to do it off camera. Didn't matter anyway. Nobody is going to do anything about it.

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[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 10 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Nadezhdin, a veteran politician who has associated with Kremlin insiders and the opposition to Putin, has been waging a last-minute campaign to get on the ballot for the election, with thousands of Russians standing for hours in the freezing cold to add their signature in his support.

Nadezhdin previously served as an aide to Sergei Kiriyenko, Putin’s domestic politics chief, and his deep contacts in government are controversial.

Tatiana Stanovaya, the founder of the political analysis firm R.Politik, said Nadezhdin had probably been permitted to try – and fail – to collect signatures for the elections to “show the hopelessness of the anti-war agenda”.

But since then, she said, Nadezhdin’s support from the camp of the jailed opposition leader Alexei Navalny, his meeting with angry wives of soldiers fighting in Ukraine and his attempts at outreach to anti-war Russians who have fled abroad had made his candidacy politically embarrassing for the Kremlin.

Nadezhdin said in his elections manifesto that Putin had made a “fatal mistake by starting the special military operation”, the Kremlin’s preferred term for its invasion.

Another openly anti-war candidate, Yekaterina Duntsova, has already been disqualified by the elections commission, which refused to accept her nomination because of alleged errors in her paperwork, including spelling mistakes.


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[-] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Nobody buys this, right? Putin's people will find any error they decide they need to find

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Oh that must be the %7 of the %107 vote turnout that Putin got from one of the precincts in Grozny

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[-] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Always use Linux to file paperwork in Russia.

Windows will be the death of you over there.

[-] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 8 points 10 months ago

Damn, yeah that happens sometimes that you send in some wrong papers.

[-] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

At least he tried. Hopefully they dont kill him for that.

[-] uis@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Navalny 2018 all over again. Who could have guess that Putin fears anyone younger than him.

[-] derpgon@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago

He fears anyohter other than him.

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