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[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 59 points 9 months ago

"Ukraine mounted a frontal attack into a Russian minefield. Here's why that's genius." Energy.

[-] Redderthanmisty@lemmygrad.ml 53 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Spend the equivelant of a used car on a cutting edge VR headset

Can only play iPad games.

[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 35 points 9 months ago

Damn, you can get used cars for $3500? Damn, the floor is like $10k cad (7500usd?) here for something that runs and drives. Registerable can be an extra bit more. Everyone here "knows what they have" and is gouging way above value.

internet-delenda-est

[-] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 9 months ago

Damn, the floor is like $10k cad (7500usd?) here for something that runs and drives.

The fuck?? In Europe you can find decent stuff for 4k€ or something. American dream moment

[-] Parzivus@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago

The car market in NA was already bad and got super fucked by COVID supply chain issues that never really got fixed

[-] bananon@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago

Also made worse by our protectionist car import regulations. Can’t get any of those sweet $5k Asian made cars

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 20 points 9 months ago

I've found fine cars for 2k €

[-] Spongebobsquarejuche@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago

Got a cherry 2003 Saturn sl for $2100. US

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

Was the floor lacking and you had to pedal it by running your bare feet on the road underneath?

[-] Redderthanmisty@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 9 months ago

My 2003 Honda CR-V is probably worth ~ÂŁ1000 if I were to sell it today, and other than a dead AC, it runs perfectly fine.

[-] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago

None of the vehicles i've owned were ever over 5 grand, but i also have an absurd amount of luck when it comes to deals.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

Don’t think they can even do that lmao. I was watching a coworker scroll through its homepage and literally every picture or video was just people doing video conferences or working at home lol. I don’t think I saw a single entertainment product advertised.

[-] Redderthanmisty@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 9 months ago

I think I recall somebody playing plants vs zombies, but yeah, its largely just an iPhone in a ski mask from what I've seen it actually do so far.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 47 points 9 months ago

Just utter fuckin nonsense, and these people have the gall to call other people NPCs

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 39 points 9 months ago

I love that they're still using Steve Jobs on their media. The man has been dead and buried for over 12 years, but his ghost still haunts the minds of these dorks.

[-] farting_weedman@hexbear.net 38 points 9 months ago

The problem with ar is that it’s promise isn’t improved quality of life for white collar workers, but increased productivity from the skilled labor pool by allowing a carrot and stick approach of huds with condensed centuries of experiential information and an unprecedented level of tracking.

The goal is to make it easier to slap anyone into a position that would currently provide a decent wage by giving them a computer that says “described symptoms indicate probable seal failure” & highlights the bolts to take out in robocop dick shoota vision and then beeps insistently when they’re on smoke break too long.

But they need to develop the technology first, and white collar workers are willing to buy and use the thing but can’t provide the kind of feedback that developers are looking for.

[-] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

TFW you know the seal is fine and you can obviously see the cracked housing is leaking, but your face-computer makes you waste 15 minutes fixing the wrong thing. And then it complains you're the one wasting time when your break is 45 seconds longer than the legal minimum.

[-] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago

I see AR being used a lot in manufacturing, and mechanic roles in particular. Boeing, for example, uses Hololens with it's mechanics to simulate airplane repairs.

Microsoft is really the only company targeting AR at the blue-collar worker, while most of the other AR companies target those white-collar workers.

[-] farting_weedman@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

There’s a lot of bad stuff you can say about Microsoft, but you can say “this is where you need to be, it it’s not gonna turn a profit for a decade.” And they have a better chance of recognizing the wisdom than many other big tech companies.

Fantastic long term vision hobbled by awful short and medium term thinking and an unwillingness to abandon existing userbases.

[-] WhatsonAir@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

Maybe it does dox me... we are using AR for power plant related tasks with some components for which we have service contracts with a third party and the manufacturers. Really does increase productivity quite a bit, still in most cases the people 30 years on the job and who know the machines well after decades on them can deal with most, too. However not always and there are a couple of them who do not actually have a mental model of the machinery and they could profit from that, too.

Tools can emancipate us, or be pressures on wages and the labour class. The question is who controls them, how they are used and in most countries also what kind of policies alter their usage.

[-] Orcocracy@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

I'm not sure if Boeing is a great example of doing good aircraft repair work right now. Maybe they should take the fucking VR googles off.

[-] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

They kinda are tho. None of the current issues were caused by improper repairs, and Boeing's mechanics do a fairly good job. Most of the issues either stem from corner cutting in design or shoddy manufacturing. Spirit AeroSystems is the company that made the door and fuselage assembly in the most recent issue. They were originally part of Boeing, but in 2005 were sold to an investment firm.

[-] peppersky@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago

this things selling point being nothing but "a screen you can't look away from" genuinely feels like a tipping point for the way consumer electronics are going

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 32 points 9 months ago

Consumerist copium is some strong stuff when taken with billionaire boot leather

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 27 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What's the explanation they give?

I looked at this thing last year and it was pretty obvious it's not intended to compete in the VR market, it's intended to be a platform that is used by enthusiasts alone. The intent seems to be to use it to build an app base that will then go on to be the foundation of a mass market AR device that they intend to release later.

If that's the explanation in the video I agree with it. But I dunno, they might have a totally different explanation. The general point is that you can't release an AR device to a mass market by itself with no apps though, so you need a strategy to get apps made beforehand, especially as the Google Glass strategy was already a clear failure.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago

Yeah, this is really just an expensive devkit. Pretty sure the Quest Pro had the same idea behind it.

[-] bananon@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

I know a guy who interns at a tech company and his whole job for the last six months was making an app for this thing, so at least some people are trying to get ahead of the curb

[-] Deadend@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago

“The Vision Pro is bad” But that is also good?

I’m tired.

I think it’s a neat/best vr headset, but I think most of the spacial computing stuff is dumb.

Having your emails floating above your desk in the office is stupid.

Useful things for augmented reality - pulling up diagnostic/data on things by looking at them like in a video game. Helping me find the wall-stud and level things.

It’s kind of stupid tech.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago

You will be able to do enter data into spreadsheets and make sales calls in VR

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's so fucking funny that you've invented this audio visual immersion pod, completely encapsulating yourself in an artifical world, and the best tool for organizing your work is still just digital graph paper.

The Medicis had "a big dark room full of ledger books" 600 years ago. Now you can live like a medieval Italian accountant for the low, low price of a month's salary.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

The people buying this probably won’t be missing that monthly salary. Usually tech reviewers and the dumbest, richest rubes

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

The real secret of Apple's success is knowing the astronomical costs some suburban dork will pay for the newest toys.

Even then, these devices keep getting tried and they keep failing. Better off putting one of those hologram projectors on the next iPhone, tbh. That's something you can show off to your friends, at least.

[-] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Stud finders cost like $8, you can probably get a shitty level for the same price, sometimes I just measure from the ground and mark two points with a pencil.

[-] Deadend@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

No shit.

But those are basically the use-cases for augmented reality.

[-] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

Sorry I worded that poorly.

[-] Deadend@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago

I was posting pre coffee, I’m sorry. your phrase was great. We are on the same page.

The best things people can come up with for the $3500 headset that had millions spent on research.. is.. maybe $20 of stuff.

The tech is Neat, but it’s really only good for entertainment.

[-] mamotromico@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

It’s interesting how the AR workspace is easily the most appealing feature for me, yet I see plenty of people see it as silly.

I’m likely a silly person I guess.

[-] Deadend@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

You can do that with windows / meta quest 3.

This is better.

But there are only so many different things you can actually look at before your brain isn’t really looking great.

Or you wanting that space as a work-around for bad UI designs.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago

The counterintuitive secret 5D chess genius archetype and its consequences

[-] reverendz@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

Sweaty? Like "perspires too much"?

Or sweety like "my sweet summer child"?

Sorry, ND and I overthink stuff like this.

[-] wopazoo@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago

Intentional misspelling of sweety

[-] Raebxeh@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

“sweety” used to be a common false endearment to condescend to people on Twitter and people began to make fun of the practice by intentionally misspelling it

[-] reverendz@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

Thanks! I appreciate the context. Never would have understood and it would have confounded me.

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