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Anon admires Hakimi (sh.itjust.works)
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>Footballer Achraf Hakimi's wife filed for divorce and demanded half of his property.
>She was however informed by court that her "Millionaire' husband owns nothing as all his property is registered under his mother's names.
>Hakimi receives €1 Million from PSG monthly but 80% of this is deposited in his mother Mrs. Fatima's account.
>He has no property, cars, houses, jewelry or even clothes in his name.
Anytime, he wants anything, he asks his mother who buys it for him.

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[-] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 82 points 5 months ago

I can believe this.

A family friend worked for a major international bank - they did the anti-fraud calls when a card had clearly been skimmed or had been used out of the usual spending pattern. They were assigned to the private banking arm, generally reserved for the rich, famous, or both.

Nine times out of ten, if they called a footballer, they'd end up being put on to their mother who handled the finances.

Smart move, I suppose. If I was a word-class sportsman raking in six figures when I was younger, I absolutely would have pissed it up the wall.

[-] herrvogel@lemmy.world 46 points 5 months ago

Just look at Michael Jordan. His mother negotiated the everliving crap out of everyone who wanted to be associated with him, and now the dude's still raking in absolutely obscene amounts of money every year without doing absolutely anything at all.

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Makes sense. It allows him to focus on his career, while she focuses on everything around him as her full time job.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 6 points 5 months ago

Although I think this greentext's equivalent wouldn't be possible to the same effect in the USA because MJ doesn't qualify as a dependent so the money that he officially made going to his mother would trigger the Gift Tax essentially taxing his income multiple times.

[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 54 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

So he's hiding his assets? That's shady as fuck.

Not only that, she can just get his money from his mom or directly garnished from his pay. If he's hiding assets to dodge paying support, he's a piece of shit

[-] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 36 points 5 months ago

Or maybe people aren't owed money for having been in a relationship with someone.

[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It depends on a lot actually. If a couple decides that one will be stay at home, and then later split up, since being a stay at home parent doesn't get you a tax receipt, you're fucked. So now you're out on your own with a giant resume gap and a lot of time of missed opportunities and sacrifices, while your ex spouse jets off with all the family income and advancement. Would you as the stay at home dad think that's fair? Cause I think that parent is owed a damn lot. I say this as the one who brings home all the money in my household, my stay at home spouse does more and is more valuable to this family than I ever hope to be, she's just straight up better than me, so if we ever split, damn right I'll take care of her and feel she's entitled to that, especially as the mother to my children, it's my duty to make sure she's ok even without me.

p.s: this footballer's wife divorced him after he was caught in Paris with sexually abusing an underage girl

[-] Letstakealook@lemm.ee -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'll concede, in specific circumstances, it may be warranted, but it is assumed to be the default currently. Far too often, the courts are used as a cudgel by a disgruntled former spouse who just wants to punch their former partner in the wallet. My father was such a disgruntled person. He was even engaged for the better part of a decade, refusing to marry until the alimony ran out. He was not a stay at home spouse, but due to his own choices, he made less than my mother. The default position should be that neither party is owed anything unless proven otherwise by specific evidence.

Edit: ihad to look these two up. A 31 year old woman courted a 19 year old up and coming footballer and married them. Guess it takes a predator to know one. Even if it left her destitute (it wouldn't), she doesn't deserve a cent.

[-] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago

Suppose you put your career on hold to help put your spouse through school. They'll be earning 4 times what you are once they're out of grad school, so you have turned down promotions and the like to keep the 2 of you as well as your kid afloat and catered to their schedule and needs while they go through this.

Now your spouse wants to split with you once they're out of school. You'd hitched your wagon to them and hadn't planned for a future where you wouldn't be moving forward as a unit.

Because that's the position I'm in now. Dammed fucking right I feel entitled to some sort of support given promises and vows were made.

Gold diggers exist, sure... but get some life experience before some bullshit hot take about something you have zero experience with

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm also going through this but it's not that painful because I had the foresight to get a prenuptial agreement before the marriage.

[-] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I'm going to come out okay when all is said and done. I never signed anything, but it helps to have asshole lawyers in your immediate family.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

Glad to hear that.

The way this was worded, I have to say, did come off smugly superior. Something like “…through this though I’m thankful it’s not as painful as it could be owing to a prenuptial agreement before marriage” would soften it kindly.

[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Yeah, this should be argued on a case by case basis and not made the default. Sorry your former spouse hung you out to dry like that tho

[-] Spaceballstheusername@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Or maybe people shouldn't marry someone if they don't expect to share finances.

[-] JustUseMint@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Lol agreed

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I don’t understand the downvotes, you’re absolutely right. It’s unfair to the person with the greater amount of resources, and I don’t understand why you should pay to uphold someone’s lifestyle unless they’re responsible for your child in some way.

[-] InfiniteStruggle@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 months ago

If he's been doing this for all his life, and if the amount has been taxed appropriately, the whole thing becomes murky - he isn't hiding assets in that case, just following habits. But then I guess she could argue that it is his money anyways, regardless of it being in his mothers account.

[-] soviettaters@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

It's a cultural thing and isn't always good. Many people in Morocco value their mother over even their own wife, and will neglect the needs of their wife to benefit their mother. Everyone from poor people to professional athletes does it.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 40 points 5 months ago

By all rights, she should get to ask his mom to buy her stuff too, and mama Hakimi can only say no half the time.

[-] InfiniteStruggle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

Ask twice every time lmao

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 5 months ago

Smart man. People with real wealth never handle it directly.

[-] bob_lemon@feddit.de 54 points 5 months ago

Yes, but that doesn't mean it's not their wealth.

I'd be very interested to see the legal construct they created that allows him to just gift tons of money to his mother for no return.

[-] olosta@lemmy.world 49 points 5 months ago

Looks like it's probably fake, the only source of this claim is some tweet from a random account. I couldn't find anything relevant after last spring, but I suppose the divorce is still not judged. At the time she claimed she was confident she would get her fair share.

In France, doing this at this scale without paying any taxes would probably be very illegal.

[-] Justas@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 months ago

Probably some kind of trust fund he contributes to but his mom is the owner of said trust fund. He will get access of it after his mom dies. People usually start those to avoid inheritance taxes.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 5 months ago

You know how he could also avoid inheritance taxes on his own money?

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

By paying divorce taxes?

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 11 points 5 months ago

For one thing, the very idea of marriage means it was already her money too. It's supposed to be an equal partnership in all things, including income and household management, not a temporary condition where they promise not fuck someone else and nothing else changes.

For another, this is fake and stupid, if a court caught him doing this they'd take more than half as a punitive measure.

You want to really get fucked in a divorce, try to hide your wealth like this and see what happens.

[-] Rekonok@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

As said up there this is a random tweet and we waiting for a court document

ACHKTUALLY there is some way in France to avoid this - the club can be the one giving money to his mom company -

Speaking about mariage rules there is laws that separate works income and usufruit of your company property (house - cars - fashion clothes that are advertising for the brands… )

It was laws made to protect a married person from inhertance of the debts from a company

Now it is another tax evasion scam

We have a word in french for fruits you can use while not owning them and it is beautifull (the word not the scam)

[-] InfiniteStruggle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

Depends on how rich you are. If you have fuck you money then laws start applying to you less and less. Considering what sort of people acquire that much money, it wouldn't surprise me if they were also willing and able to screw their former spouse over in new and creative ways.

[-] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 5 months ago

No. It's just fake, this isn't how these things work. You need to be very naive to think just moving money one step is how you avoid these things. It's not.

[-] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 22 points 5 months ago

How would you do that without paying up the nose in taxes? Does he work for his mom’s company who gets a recruitment fee from the club?

[-] ScreamingFirehawk@feddit.uk 16 points 5 months ago

You don't have to pay tax on gifts in some countries (UK for example), no idea where this guy or his mother live though.

[-] Rekonok@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

PSG is Paris soccer (not only) club

We have some taxes on gifts in France so I bet it is some kind of individual company and it is the club that give the money to her

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

It does sound simpler to say "make out the check to my mom."

[-] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 6 points 5 months ago

UK has a gift tax. Only up to £3000 per annum is tax free

[-] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

That's sort of true, it's a 3k allowance per year relating to inheritance tax. So if you give someone 6k and die 2 years later, no tax. You give them 9k and 3k is taxable.

After 7 years it all becomes exempt.

It's basically to stop people bypassing inheritance tax by giving it all away.

[-] shasta@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

So if you give it all away 7 years before you die then you don't pay tax on it?

[-] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

That's my understanding 🤷

[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Sounds like hiding assets and dodging taxes

[-] 0xb@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

no clothes in his name

uh? what does that mean? maybe that's an ultrarich thing when your clothes are actually worth some amount? do people actually have some way of legal ownership of clothes other than 'yeah I paid for them, no I don't have any receipts but they are inside my house and nobody will claim otherwise therefore they are mine'?

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's an expression used to mean someone is so broke, they figuratively don't even have clothes to put on, I believe - which this footballer isn't, but compared to his real wealth, his official wealth is pennies.

[-] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

I wonder if she left him for being such a Muttersöhnchen.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

In America, this wouldn't save him. His wages would be garnished before they hit mommy's bank account.

At least, in the many states with protections against deadbeat dads. There are still a few where ex-spouses have no protection.

[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

The story was even better than this. In the interest of fairness, he was entitled to half of her stuff, which wasn't a small amount given that she was a famous model.

Divorce rates for footballers are very high, especially in the first year after retirement, which is something stupid like 50-60%. There are also some crazy stories where wives let their husbands cheat and fuck around all day because they know that the second he retires they'll get paid.

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