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[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 215 points 8 months ago

I love how the sovereign citizen group page has the American flag in their picture. Like what are you sovereign from if you're still American?

[-] franklin@lemmy.world 142 points 8 months ago

Taxes and responsibility mostly.

[-] 800XL@lemmy.world 105 points 8 months ago

And they don't need to pay taxes or anything but are entitled to everything taxes collectively pay for.

[-] jumjummy@lemmy.world 62 points 8 months ago

And don’t forget that all these Soverign Citizen IDs, License Plates, etc. are bought with real money. Curious how these “coupons” don’t seem to work on these storefronts.

[-] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 38 points 8 months ago

You know what, that has crossed my mind a few times as THE reason even the most gullible idiot on this planet should have an eureka moment

[-] wesker 103 points 8 months ago

no ... insurance required

God, fuck this person.

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Nice of him to put a sign on his car listing the laws he's breaking.

Probably not all of them, though.

[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago

Did you know that in New Hampshire you aren't required to have car insurance? Sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing...

[-] sparky1337@ttrpg.network 25 points 8 months ago

You aren’t either in Virginia. The DMV charges a yearly $500 fee for you to keep your license active but…..yea.

[-] Macallan@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

You don't need it in AZ too, but you have to post a bond with the state.

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 14 points 8 months ago

I believe most if not all states allow a bond in place of insurance but it's a huge amount so I bet hardly anyone does it

[-] Pogogunner@kbin.social 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Not all states do

Mississippi only requires $10,000
Maine requires the most at $127,000

Source: https://www.autoinsuresavings.org/surety-bonds-auto-insurance/

[-] ALilOff@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

NH where the state motto is “live free or die”

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[-] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 78 points 8 months ago

You just know this person complains about the government tracking them and the police state of America while simultaneously driving one of the most tracking capable vehicles.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 8 months ago

the idea that cars mean freedom is truly the most impressive piece of marketing ever pulled off, mmm yes i can certainly smell the freedom as i sit in a mile long queue on the highway huffing recycled exhaust fumes.

meanwhile a bicycle is so untraceable that if someone steals one it effectively becomes theirs, and combined with public transport you can spend your night sleeping on a train and wake up for some adventures in a completely different country.

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago

Not to mention you can get a train ticket with cash. Literally no one needs to know who you are.

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[-] CPMSP@midwest.social 76 points 8 months ago

Between plates like this, odd looking flags, and red hats I have learned how to avoid dangerously foolish people.

I sure am glad that they're deciding to mark themselves.

[-] DABDA@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago
[-] lars 9 points 8 months ago

But The Beastie Boys’ Ad-Rock was who first turned me into a red baseball cap admirer. The last 10 years have been a nightmare but it’s better than it was.

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[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 66 points 8 months ago

Can't wait for them not to learn a lesson in front of a judge.

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 44 points 8 months ago

Yeah... I wouldn't go around announcing lack of license & insurance 🤦‍♀️ What are they THINKING??

Methinks the followers of this movement are being trolled by the "leaders" of this movement

[-] federalreverse@feddit.de 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Do you have 1h46m? Because there's an explanatory Münecat video. The whole "non-commercial travel" thing has a significance as well — US sovcits think if they announce that, they don't need a license.

[-] TheEntity@kbin.social 47 points 8 months ago

I do not have a contract with you and I do not consent to paddling off these two hours of my life I'm never getting back.

[-] cheezoid2@sh.itjust.works 24 points 8 months ago

Without prejudice

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Thank you. I dived in. My attention span held out the first 24 minutes.

So far my main takeaway is that anyone who wants to stand up as a sovereign citizen needs to have a loud persistent unwavering personality and attitude for this. The kinda person who's good at memorizing all this and talking loudly & incessantly, and never backs down.

Kinda the same personality it requires to be a lawyer, but sovereign citizens refuse to submit to the system. They're standing up for fundamental human rights and they're willing to martyr themselves for it, one legal confrontation at a time.

[-] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Quick, smash their car so they can defend their sovereignty.

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

The Sovereign Citizen movement was originally set up by Big Autoglass to increase sales

~ steve3291 YouTube comment

[-] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 8 points 8 months ago

i think thats the point. its like scientology, except its targetting people who are paranoid of big brother.

[-] generalpotato@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago

No insurance required huh? Would be unfortunate if something were to happen their car.

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[-] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 34 points 8 months ago

I'm surprised they can afford a car, never mind a Plaid.

[-] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago

Model S Plaids are probably not as expensive as you think. They’re even more affordable when you don’t pay taxes nor insurance.

[-] Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 8 months ago

eBay motors sold listings make me think they aren’t getting into a used Model S Plaid for less than around 55k. If they aren’t paying taxes or insurance, they aren’t paying down a loan for the car because the creditor would repossess that shit so fast.

[-] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

I bet that car is either recently purchased or they’re actually paying their loan considering that you can disable a Tesla with the Vin. It’s one of the most connected cars in the world.

[-] norbert@kbin.social 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Crypto early adopter who got lucky and wants to avoid paying taxes on his winnings, or troll.

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[-] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

People buying more car than they can afford is the American Way.

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[-] HollandJim@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

I'm surprised they can afford a car, never mind a Plaid.

Who says they’ll pay for it?

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[-] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago

You know the sad thing is, I bet a lot of cops don't pull them over because they know it's going to be a huge hassle for them.

[-] PR3CiSiON@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

Eh, on the other hand, some cops LOVE the fight.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

And even though I hate cops I also don't blame them because cops have died at the hands of sovcits before. I really don't disagree.

[-] st3ph3n@midwest.social 22 points 8 months ago

I look forward to seeing this appear in a bodycam video soon.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 19 points 8 months ago

In their make believe world, is stealing from a sovcitizen a crime? Since "the law" doesn't apply and the cops "have no authority", it sure looks like they're walking around with "free loot"

[-] some_guy 7 points 8 months ago

First time I've seen anyone propose this, but I remember in a vid where a man referred to his child daughter as "property," so I think they have strong beliefs about this topic.

[-] Aurolei@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Taxes pay for roads. If you are a sovereign citizen, I don't see why you would be allowed to use or park on them.

[-] Redfugee@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

They don't use or park on them.. they travel on them (or whatever bullshit they say).

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[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This fake license plate is very aesthetically pleasing. Still don't use fake license plates...

[-] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

That always works, I've seen the videos

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