IME those groups aren't very libertarian, they're closer to American Taliban religious fundamentalism.

As someone that used to work for Meta as a contractor for another company that did content moderation for them: I agree completely with your first statement. They fired all of their US based contractors on content moderation and shipped it back to India where they are overworked and don't have the cultural insight to know to take this kind of shit down when reported. They also rely heavily on AI for content moderating that was trained by contractors like myself.

Took me a second to get this and I laughed but am now sad by how true this is.

I think free speech is really important. As soon as you start on the path of censorship you can't stop.

It starts with censorship of the extreme and ends with only a handful of allowed beliefs.

It's not even "tracking down". It's public information that is easily searchable. It should be easy to stay 2 steps ahead of these groups planning things out in the open.

Yeah, something like Reddit or lemmy would be way better. Make a relatively obscure community with a dog whistle as a name. Anonymous, minimal moderation, and an amount of control to keep the group think in.

But please, use Facebook.

I only worry that FaceBook might actually cover for them and facilitate them. It's not exactly a company known for outcomes of Peace and Respect for Human Rights.

Makes them easy to find. Dumbasses.

Jan 6 has entered the chat

Only if FB wants there to be.

(And they don't. They've actively courted extremists since leaving campus.)

Care saying "far right." On Lemmy some of the users will tell you that the Democratic party is "far right."

You don't need to agree with what they post but it should be protected under free speech. This isn't China

I also think people these days can't stand seeing anything they don't agree with. All people see is the stuff tailored to them and there is no discomfort

Facebook is not the government though?

And why is it always "we have to respect other people calling for the erasure of the rights of minorities"? Do you have any idea how frustrating and tiresome that is, as a minority?

Racism is still free speech which sucks but the alternative is high censorship and fear

This is incorrect, and only serves those who target marginalized groups.

I wanna make it very clear that the conclusion that restriction of hate speech is a slippery slope for freedom of speech is not a given or universally held position

You can absolutely introduce laws prohibiting hate speech without introducing high censorship or fear. Many countries have laws prohibiting hate speech, including most European countries and a majority of, what Wikipedia calls, developed democracies.

Even countries that don't have limits for hate inducing speech towards marginalized groups, with reference to the importance of freedom of speech, rarely have complete freedom of speech.

As an example, the US limits to freedom of speech include "fraud, child pornography, speech integral to illegal conduct, speech that incites imminent lawless action, and regulation of commercial speech such as advertising."

The claim that intolerance to intolerance is dangerous, only serves the spread of intolerance.

The paradox of tolerance states that if a society's practice of tolerance is inclusive of the intolerant, intolerance will ultimately dominate, eliminating the tolerant and the practice of tolerance with them.

Rosenfeld contrasts the approach to hate speech between Western European democracies and the United States, pointing out that among Western European nations, extremely intolerant or fringe political materials (e.g. Holocaust denial) are characterized as inherently socially disruptive, and are subject to legal constraints on their circulation as such,[13] while the US has ruled that such materials are protected by the principle of freedom of speech and cannot be restricted, except when endorsements of violence or other illegal activities are made explicit.

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It's only a bad thing when it's people I don't agree with.

Racism is free speech, unless it's deemed antisemitic, then you're in trouble!

..but dangerous nonetheless.
At least they would be easy to eliminate, once they come out.

Sounds like a bunch of fatass losers who peaked in high school.

The extremists on Lemmy scare me

The National Guard, The Pentagon, the majority of Police Departments. They might be more authoritarian than your average US Leftist, but at least they don't want to start all over to establish their Rule of Law. Even Trump's generals looked down on him. If you want to do your part in a potential US Civil War then owning a gun to protect your homestead might help but the best thing you can do is report the right wing extremists as you see them. If you even hear word of any sort of encampment or compound, submit an anonymous tip to the FBI, you can expect a specialized task force to deal with it pretty quickly.

A feature, not a bug.