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[-] Brustadnrift@lemm.ee 202 points 2 years ago

Man, this is depressing. While I wasn’t “raised online” since I was raised on dialup and couldn’t block the phone line all that long.

I still remember when google was the new kid on the block and the general feeling about them across early Internet forums.

Microsoft was evil because they copied everybody else’s stuff and wanted to charge for it. Apple was clueless making expensive junk. Sun was a darling for a while at least until they started pulling shit.

Enter mother-fucking-Google. Ethical. Honest. Not evil. Smart. Supporting open source. And on top of all that, FREE to use. Like Microsoft wants to charge you for hotmail if you want an inbox > 2MB? Fucking EVIL!!! Google is ethical because they are completely free!!! And I hear they are working on an email service too. Google just wants to shepherd the internet and protect it from companies like Microsoft, Apple, and AOL.

Oh Google.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 90 points 2 years ago

A company that survives long enough eventually gets turned to the dark $ide. Greedy asshats will always ruin a good thing for their own benefit

[-] kittenbridgeasteroid@discuss.tchncs.de 79 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Any company that becomes publicly traded gets turned to the dark side. That's the factor that does it because they have a legal requirement to do everything they can to maximize profits.

Trying to sustain perpetual growth will always lead to companies fucking over their customers and employees.

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 years ago

While I feel this is true there are so few privately owned companies that prove this as fact. Holds breath that steam never fucks over its customers

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I live Valve, but there's always that nagging bit in the back of my mind reminding me that they can always turn evil in the span of a few years. And the recent debacle with Dolphin doesn't help

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[-] THED4NIEL@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

The biggest problem in my opinion is, when companies stop to be companies and instead turn into glorified money trees whose only purpose is to shake all value from, value generated by the people who have to work there.

Once a company sells its soul to investors, it becomes nothing more than a human in the Matrix: a thing to harvest, to be kept alive until nothing of value remains, then thrown aside and disposed.

Source: I speak from experience, worked at one investor-driven enterprise and one that is listed on exchanges

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Being good is good for growth, but investors eventually want that payout.

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[-] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

'You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"

[-] johnthedoe@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 years ago

Google was so exciting. Gmail especially.

We were so keen to ditch yahoo messenger and msn as soon as facebook messenger came out too.

Now it all sucks.

[-] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

This made me really nostalgic for times when the internet still felt new and promising...

[-] Aielman15@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I miss the old days, browsing internet forums and discovering for the first time that there exist people out there who like the same nerdy things that I do!

[-] seitanic 22 points 2 years ago

Google didn't have a plan to keep from becoming evil. They just had a cute motto.

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[-] TacticsConsort@yiffit.net 92 points 2 years ago

Shoutout to Deviantart, they a real one

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[-] Dirk@lemmy.ml 63 points 2 years ago

All of this led to me ditching all of those (except YouTube, this is without a real alternative due to the content exclusively hosted there) and starting to self-host my stuff and joining the Fediverse.

[-] festemmie@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

you can use invidious or piped on PC and newpipe on a phone. just be careful cause i heard google removed newpipe from the playstore and someone put something malicious with the same name, but im not sure how that situation is going

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[-] jlou@mastodon.social 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

To have some sort of viable fediverse alternative to YouTube, the developers of it would have to abandon some of the free software principles that current fediverse platforms uphold. There needs to be a way to monetize to attract creators and get people to host the servers

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[-] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago

Lemmy seems to be trying its best to teach me about furry porn.

[-] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago

While I'm not into furry porn, I love the community around it. I've actually had random encounters with a few furies and they are awesome peeps.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You know, you can be into furry stuff without being into all the porn...they ARE separable. It's not any more harmful than anime fans or trekkies, really. There's tons of crossover, actually.

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[-] derpysmilingcat@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Listen I didn't choose the life, the life chose me.

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[-] voidavoid@lemmy.ca 54 points 2 years ago

Someone's underestimating the age of the internet.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah but...ordinary people were not dialing into BBS forums back then. We weren't "raised" online like kids now are, we were able to log off anytime and not ever need it to function in society. That started changing in the early 2000s. All my kid's school assignments are now done on a laptop on a district-owned cloud system. He hasn't needed a pencil and paper in...I forgot how long.

If you're around my age, congratulations on being the last generation to ever know what the world was like before widespread use of the Internet.

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[-] Cube6392@beehaw.org 18 points 2 years ago

Eh. But what does it mean to be raised online? I think for that you need the availability of ever present internet connections in the form of mobile devices. I think the first kids raised online would have been born in 2003, and would have been 4, preschool age, in 2007 when the iPhone came out. Those kids are 16 now. If we want to set the standard for "raised online" as being "digital native" then I think we should dial back the range to when AIM was popular. Again, setting the standard for who could have been raised with that constant interconnectedness as being someone who was 4 at time of introduction would give us the first AIM connected people reaching age 30 right now.

The reality is, I think, in the middle. The first generation we could say was raised online is basically right in between those two ages, 23. The other standard we could try to set is, who is the first generation who doesn't remember the internet as exciting, just instead a daily part of life

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[-] Unaware7013@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago

Seriously, Eternal September was like 30 years ago.

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[-] Gallardo994@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago

Pornhub taught me I'm picky af

[-] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago

Pornhub taught me people like incest. Maybe it's related to game of thrones?

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[-] Steak@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

Pornhub prob made you picky. Be less picky it's great.

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[-] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago

rule34 sites taught me I could be porn

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[-] thenofootcanman@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago

Jesus what was the original version of this?

[-] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

Cringe. The original version is cringe.

[-] EliasChao@lemmy.one 23 points 2 years ago
[-] thenofootcanman@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

The sweet release of death cannot come soon enough

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[-] Crozekiel@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago

One of these things is not like the other...

DeviantArt really caught me off guard... lol

[-] Roundcat@kbin.social 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Vine taught me you're worthless unless you're making someone else money.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago

Sounds like it prepared you for the world economy

[-] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

It hurts because it's true... ;_;

[-] xerazal@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 years ago

This is what neoliberalism does. It privatizes everything, including the individual. Everyone is a product. Everyone has a "brand".

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[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago

I need to log into my old deviantArt account again. Those were fun times.

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[-] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Which generation? Im 36 and i was definitely raised online.

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[-] KeefChief12@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago

Let vine rest easy

[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

One of these things is not like the others.

i cannot escape YouTube at all for sure and i do want to use instagram sometimes + GIB VINE

[-] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 14 points 2 years ago

Use YouTube.com in firefox with u-block origin. Works well enough while not giving them ad revenue.

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[-] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Lemmy is great but the majority of you guys have a, r/notlikeothergirls vibe.

Like you know something about the world and by saying, "I am not mainstream I am alternative," you are making yourselves inclusive in some way. You don't know anything the rest of the world doesn't already have some idea about. Some sort of secret knowledge. I think my favorite thing I have seen on here is people thinking they are private and secure on the Fediverse. Despite the fact you are on a self hosted instance of someone's hardware and handing your privacy and security to someone random or an entity at random.

Being inclusive is not how you educate people. It's how you isolate your knowledge and make people think you are a jerk.

[-] ayyndrew@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago

Lemmy attracts this FOSS/linux/firefox/self-hosted or die mentality because the biggest jump in Lemmy users came from a corporation messing with a product they liked

[-] Loulou@lemmy.mindoki.com 9 points 2 years ago

Which is good.

Without "die hard" FOSS people we wouldn't have Lemmy, Linux, Apache, Firefox etc etc etc. I mean, dont shit where you eat I guess I what I want to say.

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