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[-] gi1242@lemmy.world 115 points 6 months ago

academic journals now only provide a service to authors. they used to distribute... but the articles are available free on the arxiv, pubmed, authors websites, etc. the peer review and typesetting journals do is a joke and no author will pay for that.

the value journals have now is mainly to the author, because the prestige of getting accepted by the journal helps with the authors career. publishers figured out that authors will pay for this, so here we are ... 🙄

[-] bleistift2@feddit.de 42 points 6 months ago

I used to have trust in the peer review process, thinking this is why it takes months or years for a paper to get published. Are you telling me it’s not real?

[-] gi1242@lemmy.world 58 points 6 months ago

iwriting reviews is time consuming, unpaid, and doesn't help the reviewers career. so it takes a while because reviewers are already busy and don't prioritize writing reviews too much.

quality of the reviews is questionable. 10% of the reviews are through and provide valuable feedback. the remaining 90% are cursory "yeah this is interesting, publish it" or "not interesting/outside scope".

very very few reviews find and report scientific errors

[-] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

find and report scientific errors

Hell, the fact that any articles have been published with the openAI "I can't provide up-to-date info" means that shit's not getting read properly, overall.

[-] blurg@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Though errors are somewhat monitored by Retraction Watch.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 9 points 6 months ago

Sounds like you already worked it out.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Depends on what journal is reviewing the paper.

[-] max@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 6 months ago

The value of a scientists, how funny this world is

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 16 points 6 months ago

That expression is hilarious. What’s the name of the template?

[-] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 15 points 6 months ago

It's from the movie Monster House

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 9 points 6 months ago

In so many more ways than one... :-(

[-] Mikufan@ani.social 6 points 6 months ago

Why Don't make your own journal with free distribution?

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Its bigger than me, or you. This tracks the Open Access movement in academia: http://tagteam.harvard.edu/remix/oatp/items

[-] flyos@jlai.lu 16 points 6 months ago

Some people did, look up the Peer Community Journal. Backed up by more and more organisations.

[-] gi1242@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

there are plenty of low cost open access journals run by nonprofits and professional societies. however junior researchers when building their reputation try and publish in journals that are as prestigious as possible, without worrying about cost, apc, open access etc.

[-] Mikufan@ani.social 12 points 6 months ago

Kinda sad that this is necessary or seen as necessary

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

"How much are they?" is a question.

"How much they are" is a statement.

[-] nintendiator@feddit.cl 2 points 6 months ago

And "How much they are?" is a question. See? Question mark right there.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Why think that work you how?

[-] nintendiator@feddit.cl 1 points 6 months ago

Descriptivistic nanomachines, son!

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Descriptivism doesn't mean people can't fuck up.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works -2 points 6 months ago

Incorrect.

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