There is only one species of dog, canis familiaris. I still wouldn’t call a chihuahua and a great dane the same thing. Species or subspecies, indica is still a different thing.
Huh, last I looked somewhere I'm pretty sure indica was considered a subspecies, not a distinct species. Thanks for the update or correction, either or.
Oh wait no I should've known, it's something we're still pretty much arguing over. That is whether sativa and indica (and ruderalis) are both suspecies, or whether they're all their own species in the same family.
And dog breeds are still (at least in the vast majority) not even different subspecies, just different breed (variants of the same species)
Indica is technically "cannabis sativa indica" and then a strain would technically be written fully as "C. sativa var indica, 'Indian Kush'" or "C. sativa indica, var 'Northern Lights'" or something to that effect. But also sativa would be like "C. sativa sativa, var. 'Durban Poison'"
This is all up for debate, I'm not saying there's consensus on what is or isn't correct. Just inputting a lil content to Lemmy
Cannabis Ruderalis has entered the chat as the third currently recognized species, unique for its auto-flowering quality.
I understand self-pollinating, but what is auto-flowering?
Short answer non-autoflowering cannabis relies on the day/night cycle to figure out when to flower, while auto-flowering relies on an inbuilt timer, once it's old enough it'll flower.
Where self-pollinating is where a plant’s pollen fertilizes its own ovules to create seeds, auto-flowering is where the plant transitions from vegetative state to the flowering state based on age instead of light cycle.
Idk it’s so interesting to me
"Normal" (non-autoflowering) cannabis is more properly "photoperiod", which means that they only start blooming once they "recognise" the light period to be around 12/12 (and some strains like 18/6, referred to as "earlys", but those are quite rare.)
"Autoflowering" refers to how the plants "automatically" go into bloom despite the light period you have. Ruderalis is (well arguably) a subspecies (or a species of it's own, whatever) that evolved at such northern latitudes that when the lights actually hit 12/12 (in autumn), there wouldn't be time to bloom.
So ruderalis evolved to bloom despite the light period, more relying on just how old/big/fed the plant is. Mainly just the age of the plant.
At first ruderalis strains were really small and mild (Lowryder, ah, the nostalgia), but that was like 15 years ago.
Nowadays it's hard to find strains that there aren't autoflowering versions for, and the plants can be pretty much just as huge as "normal" photoperiods.
Depends on the grower and whether they're grow outside or inside, but not having to change your lights can be an advantage, especially since the 12/12 requires 12 hours of proper darkness, ao for instance small windowsill cannabis wouldn't bloom in northern latitudes. Requires a good lightproof tent to grow normal photoperiods. Autoflowers are less fussy and usually faster from seed to weed.
However if you do have a proper setup, you're probably gonna want photoperiods, as growing them gives more control. You can decide how long you want the "vegetative" phase to last, so you can grow the plants for 3 weeks them force them to bloom or you can grow them for 6 weeks and let them flower. Then the flowering takes about 8-12 weeks on top of that. With autoflowers it's usually 10-12 from seed to harvest. Fastest ones claim 8 weeks.
Hope that answers your question somewhat.
I mean, I don't partake but isn't it the same as saying cabbage, kale, broccoli, cauliflower and a dozen other things are the same?
It would be the same as saying there is only one species of broccoli, Brassica oleracea.
Me in this thread.
"What's with all the files named after cannabis strains on the gcms and lcms computers?"
"I was making a point."
Right there with you. I got a good giggle out of this.
And there's only one species of wild cabbage, Brassica oleracea. Get out of here with that "broccoli", "kale", "cabbage" or "brussel sprouts" nonsense!
me when weed smokers are talking about magic mushroom “strains”.
These are pretty different though, as cannabis has literally dozens of different cannabinoids and terpenes, but "magic mushrooms" refers to psilocybin shrooms, which all have psilocybin and psilocin in varying amounts.
Cannabis relies on the entourage effect.
MFW someone pretends there is a universally accepted definition of "species."
Obviously life will refuse to be neatly classified, but that doesn't mean people smarter than us won't still try to do it in order to better understand the world.
... yes? Did you not read your own link? There are several definitions of "species" offered. Go have a look at how this applies to Cannabis and perhaps you will get my point.
is this a ligma joke that i'm too high to understand
this is actually one thing that has pissed me off for 30+ years. to be fair, there is 2-3 types, one for smoking, one for hemp products (non smoking/not getting high) and the wild kind.
Kinda sorta a bit different but you got the gist down close enough. 🙏
Cannabaceae is the plants family which is good shit btw 🤩🧐
There are two ways of thinking I’m aware of. It’s all cannabis sativa. Or. It’s cannabis sativa, Cannabis indica and cannabis ruderalis as the three sub species.
Ruderalis is literally ditch weed in that it grows randomlyin the ditch’s around midwestern America, near where “hemp” was produced previously, and produces nothing smokeable or enjoyable I’m aware of.
Hemp is just a governmental term applied to the cannabis plant to denote it has less than .3% THC making it non psychoactive. This is currently heavily abused in the USA as THCa, the naturally occurring acid that grows on cannabis, melts or converts into THC with heat. And the law seemingly defines it into as THC being over .3% not THCa. Weird loophole.
Can anyone explain ?
Cannabis sativa is the same plant for every single strain of cannabis in existence, as well as hemp. The meme is pointing out how we talk about sativa, indica, and hybrids as completely different plants, rather than variations of the same species
But each strain is different, right? Like how a chihuahua and a German shepherd are both dogs, but vastly different.
Yes, the different strains absolutely have some differences, and I'm not trying to say it's all bullshit. Weed is awesome, and we should document new stuff as it comes along, but we need to remember that it's all a single plant. I'd say weed is like the apple of drugs
I think the confusion is that there are two well-known subgroups of cannabis sativa, indica and sativa (ruderalis is more obscure). So the species and subgroup have the same name, to the consternation of indica lovers.
It may also be referential to the greater indica/sativa internet drama, there are fierce disputes about the differences or lack thereof. The confusion is amplified due to the lack of quality control in cannabis genetics and sales, and most strains are hybrids between the two (or three)
And yet they are very very different each strain. Doesnt matter if "indica" is fake, they test how it smoked and declare it that type and it is a meaningful difference.
Things marked sativa give me headaches inevitably. Hybrids and indica marked bud doesnt. There is a difference in how breeds effect you, despite incorrect colloquial naming.
The hops used for brewing beer belong to the same family as marijuana and have a similar alkaloid, the hop harvesters at the end of the day can confirm this.
I guess people that keep thinking this are going The wrong way down a one way street
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