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[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 139 points 1 month ago

This was definitely a trigger for me.

A few years ago, I had some great email exchanges about a position. I was an experienced dev, and I knew what they were looking for. But to make it official, I had to go through their HR person.

This was the first time I was going to talk to someone from the company, live in a video call.

And the moment we jumped on a call, her first words were, "Do you have a green card?"

I was born here. One look at my skin color and that was her question.

[-] dogsnest@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago

So, you don't? /s

[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 42 points 1 month ago

CAN YOU UNDERSTAND ME? YOU ENGLISH? gestures wildly

[-] some_guy 4 points 1 month ago

I have friend who told me that his father speaks broken english to non-native speakers. If they hire landscapers, for example, he'll start mimicking a hispanic accent and dropping words and deliberately changing grammar. His entire family is terribly embarrassed by this behavior, even if he means well. What a tool.

As we've been told since at least the early nineties: if a non-native english speaker can't understand you, just repeat yourself and ASK LOUDER. /s

[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 month ago

And don't you forget to gesture! THEY NO UNDERSTAND WITHOUT! 👍🫱🤜👋💪

[-] user1234@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 month ago

But why aren't potatos friends?

[-] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I used to work in HR. In my first week, the HR Manager walked around with me on the floor of our factory. We had a lot of Vietnamese employees. She wanted me to start learning people's names, but the first time we encountered a Viet person she whispered to me "hey, between you and me, I can't really tell them apart since they all look similar and have similar names, so if you can't remember them then it's no biggie". Like what??? Ma'am you are the HR manager.

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[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 132 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Very clearly the ad was run including requirements that were supposed to be known only to the recruiter.

Remember this next time someone tells you there is no justification for affirmative action programs.

Only a sloppy (or maliciously compliant) person responsible for committing the ad copy exposed this for what it was. Had they done their job as intended, there would have been no evidence of these racist hiring practices.

And now all the non-bigots know that they don't want to work for (checks notes) Arthur Grand Technologies Inc. based in Loudoun County, Virginia.

I certainly hope that when searching for this company, top google search results will show that Arthur Grand Technologies Inc. based in Loudoun County, Virginia was fined by the justice department for seeking to hire whites only, at the exclusion of non-whites and those born outside the US.

https://wtop.com/loudoun-county/2024/05/after-whites-only-job-posting-va-tech-company-hit-with-fine-from-the-justice-department/

Minor edit to fix word choice...

[-] Spendrill@lemm.ee 56 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Arthur Grand Wizard Technologies Inc.

I mean, it's right there in the name...

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago
[-] refalo@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago

GRAND WIZARD WHITE

[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

It’s also probably worth the Department of Labor’s time to investigate their previous hiring practices. When every single employee ends up being white, the DOL will likely be able to come down on them with even bigger fines. Because proving discrimination often requires a pattern, but an all-white payroll would be a nice shiny pattern for the DOL to grab onto and parade around in court.

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago

This also may have been a targeting instruction accidentally posted in the ad.

After all, with contemporary targeting knowing everything about everyone it should be easy to only show that to, e.g. straight white cis male US citizens of 34.4 years old with 2.2 male children

[-] dogsnest@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago
[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Thank you! I really, really hate this trend of posting a screenshot of a headline or part of an article. Why not post a link to the actual article?

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 3 points 1 month ago

It’s strange that there’s no comment from the company.

Yeah, that's not so strange.

[-] some_guy 1 points 1 month ago

The job posting by Ashburn-based Arthur Grand Technologies Inc. was published in March 2023 and said that the company was only looking for “U.S. Born Citizens [white] who are local within 60 miles from Dallas, TX [Don’t share with candidates],” according to a Justice Department news release.

I'm telling you, these job replies from HR have gotten pretty cryptic, but I send out what they tell me to send. It's not my job to understand, just to send the emails.

"Dear [Candidate],

We regret to inform you that [Company Name] is no longer hiring for the position of [job title]. Thank you for your interest in [Company Name].

Sincerely, [Your Name]"

[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago
[-] zcd@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 month ago

But not real jail because, you know...

[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We do indeed.

[-] cloudless@lemmy.cafe 22 points 1 month ago

The responsible person should go to jail instead of just paying a small fine.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

According to the article, the company is under departmental monitoring as well as the fine. They can't make this kind of move again in the short term.

[-] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago

Ironically, the job ad was posted by someone in India.

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

It looks like the line that was included in the job posting was not meant to be published, but was an instruction for the recruiter:

“U.S. Born Citizens [white] who are local within 60 miles from Dallas, TX [Don’t share with candidates],”

If the company hadn't been too cheap to hire local, US born, white, racist citizens to handle the job posting, they might have been able to continue being scummy without anyone being able to prove it.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Based if the guy in India deliberately accidentally included that bit.

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah, but I wouldn't expect some guy in India to be in a position to intentionally fuck over his employer no matter how much they want to.

[-] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 10 points 1 month ago

I worked at cricket when I was younger and the outsourced customer service was terrible. They would not only hang up on customers but they would hang up on employees and managers too. My only point is that they very well could be in the position to not give any fucks.

[-] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

Outsourcing is intentionally low-supervision.

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There are multiple “consulting” agencies in the US that have gotten in trouble for not hiring anyone aside from south Asians. If this job was posted by someone in India, there is probably a non-zero chance they were hiring this “white” only person because they were trying to offset the fact that they only hire south Asians otherwise.

[-] andrewth09@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago
[-] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I worked for a company in my mid 20's that wouldn't hire anyone not white. I head the boss' wife, the "Office Manager," joke about she could always tell who was black, no matter how "good they talked on the phone," because they would always pronounce words that ended in "ment" as "mint." As in "depart-mint." They all thought it was hilarious. I wasn't there long.

[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Oh! Now I understand why my English teacher was a total fascist when it came to those kinds of pronunciations! Pen-guin got us a fair few times. Neat. She was just extra racist.

[-] cristo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

As long as you didnt pronounce it ping wings I think youre okay

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

It's not even a race thing really, regional dialects exist across skin color.

[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Bro, this was Texas. This teacher was nuts.

[-] BurnSquirrel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Sued immediately you say?

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