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Two conservative groups are asking a federal court to block the Biden administration’s plan to cancel $39 billion in student loans for more than 800,000 borrowers.

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[-] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 103 points 1 year ago

Democrats could rinse and repeat this political strategy to multiple white house victories. Create policy that benefits common people while showing republicans as desperate to a holes that want to stop the help at any cost.

[-] DoctorTYVM@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Has this actually helped Biden win support? Because it seems like the same people benefiting from his policies are vocally trashing him

[-] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I personally wish he would just say 'vote for me and I'll cancel your loans' or something.

Why do only Republicans play dirty?

This has been shown to work very well in developing countries.

[-] 30isthenew29@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

That may be, but if the military is that subsidized, why not some of the normal folk?

[-] Ajen@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago

That would be a really good idea if Democrats actually wanted to help people and weren't just pandering.

[-] MicroWave@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

The Education Department called the suit “a desperate attempt from right wing special interests to keep hundreds of thousands of borrowers in debt.”

“We are not going to back down or give an inch when it comes to defending working families,” the department said in a statement.

[-] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Conservatives decide to use the court system to fuck over people in need? What a shocker!

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

These "shocker!" or "I'm sooo surprised!" statements are self indulgent and actually kill the inspiration to fight back in some who read along. They don't serve a purpose beyond you personally having something to say for the sake of it.

Use that energy for a comment with some substance next time. Maybe you find and link some examples of your premise? Or promote the simple act of registering to vote so that we can get more progressive minded people in offices with mandates to do things like apply enforceable ethical standards to the Supreme Court.

[-] Roundcat@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago

At some point you have to wonder how does this benefit conservatives at all? On the contrary, forgiving student debt would free up the income of several people in their districts to spend money and stimulate the economy. From a church's perspective, any money that isn't being spent on repayment is potentially money being dumped into their collection plates. And for all those conservative people who want liberals/queer people/racial minorities to move away from them, they would certainly have more money to do so. Even to the most die hard conservative, I don't see how this isn't an absolute win?

[-] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

More liberals go to college than conservatives. So while this will hurt some of their base, it will hurt their enemy more. And it's a culture war victory for their aging boomer base that enjoyed cheap college and never had to struggle with college debt.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

It helps people, and for conservatives the cruelty is the point.

[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Nah, they feed their base hate but that's their playbook and not the point.

Power and money are the point and poor people are easier to exploit. Everything they're doing, even abortion, is about keeping the cycle of poverty going.

[-] who8mydamnoreos@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

If loan forgiveness goes though its a major win for the Democrats and they cant have that. If republicans block it, then the peasants among us can claim that Democrats were never serious about it and both parties are the same.

[-] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The overlap of "old people who donate to churches" and "people with student debt" is probably quite low. Debt and hardship breeds low-income, low-educated future generations, and those uneducated bloodlines are easier to convince to go to church.

Keeping middle america poor, uneducated, and struggling is a direct benefit to both religion and the corporate bottom line.

[-] WallsToTheBalls@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 year ago

Because conservatives don’t represent people they represent Wall Street

[-] JimmyJazz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That's a bingo

[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Poor, vulnerable people are easier for the capitalist class to exploit for lower wages.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
  1. Conservative areas have lower education rates so it doesn't impact them as much.

  2. Banksters lobby.

  3. It might get them a few votes from their core supporters.

  4. It is denying the Democrats a win.

[-] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Because their base has the idea that it if doesn't benefit them personally, we shouldn't do it. If they don't get "free money" too, then they missed out. How dare we correct a mistake of outrageously high college loans without just giving money to those who didn't go to college or were able to pay it off? That's not fair.

[-] RagnarokOnline@reddthat.com 28 points 1 year ago

I know one generation in particular who is going to be pissed about this…

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 35 points 1 year ago

The one who was able to afford a year of college after working a single part-time job over the summer?

[-] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Student loans do not effect the wealthy. They simply do not have student loans. For them it is a waste of tax money.

And boomers did not need student loans because college was affordable. They believe you can still get s part time job and pay for school. So to them, quit being so lazy.

Then we have the rich boomers that pay politicians to rage for them.

[-] JimmyJazz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Tax money that they, by and large, don't pay anyway

[-] WalkableProgrammer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

🙋‍♂️

[-] Aoxomoxoa35@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

If the forgiveness fails to go through, I wish they'd at least set the interest rate to 0% and/or make the minimum payment something ridiculously low like $20/month. Both would help a lot

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

The GOP/Nazi party is sickening to watch in their cruelty.

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