Strange pattern emerging from lemmy.world with an admin advertising their business in the adhd community, allowing virulently Islamophobic atheistmemes community and now repeating the exploding-heads (we have to patiently discuss blocking the instance) course of action instead of a preemptive defederation, it is their last resort though.

The post on lemmy.world discussing it as well: https://lemmy.world/post/2680147

As of this post the blocked instances are here

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[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Hexbear: Our community has different opinions on the Russo-Ukrainian conflict, and we are not pro-NATO.

Lemmy.world: Don't federate with these tankies! rage-cry

Rammy.site: <Straight up transphobia, homophobia, and other bigoted fascist rhetoric>

Lemmy.world: Uhm.. should we really defederate from them just for being offended? maybe-later-kiddo

Scratch a LIB and a frothingfash bleeds, indeed.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reading those comments makes me realize what a special place we have here.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t want to federate anymore tbqh

[–] DictatrshipOfTheseus@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wonder if we were to do another vote on whether hexbear should federate, if we'd get roughly the same ratio of people for it and against as last time, or if there would turn out to be more people getting wary about the whole prospect of federation, if not outright changing their mind. Would some of the lets-fucking-go people be more trepidatious maybe? Just given how weird things have gotten around here recently (imo) and how much the inter-instance drama has already become so prevalent of a topic. And we haven't even federated yet!

There are valid reasons to federate, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried about some of the potential ways it could change this community.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Liberals continue to prove they are just fascism-light.

This is why anti-communism should always be treated with suspicion.

[–] wopazoo@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Lemmy.world admins are obviously fascists. The fact that they pearl-clutch over defederating Nazi instances while defederating socialist instances without a second thought proves this.

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

They said it was because hexbear was pushing an ideology and therefore had nothing of value to add to the conversation

As opposed to liberals who preemptively ban forums so that people won't get exposed to anything anti-nato. No ideology there.

This site is not advocating violence (like plenty of left groups do) and it’s not instigating bigotry (you’re allowed to make your own thoughts and opinions.) What your advocating for is basically censorship and you’re trying to turn this place into another far-left Reddit hell hole.

Lol. Lmao even.

If it’s as bad as it sounds from the quotes I read, then it should definitely be defederated from. Any instance peddling hate and/or propoganda needs to be defederated immediately. They need to be denied audiences.

I expect this person think they are a completely rational actor and not affected in the least by 'propaganda'. Now, we need to report on our wholesome chungus Ukrainian patriots who have those silly tattoos and worship literal fucking nazis as cuddly friendos who love cattos. It is only propaganda if it goes against the imperial core corporate media.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Any instance peddling hate and/or propoganda

Ban news and politics communities too then. What the fuck do these people think propaganda is? Also puting hate on the same level as spreading of ideas is absurd.

[–] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

By ‘hate’ they mean anti-cracker-aktion . The most fragile kkkrackkkas.

[–] LeZero@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Curious

Did they ever try to reach the admins here?

[+] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

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[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So they're openly admitting that they're treating a transphobic nazi instance better than a trans inclusive leftist one. Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds, every single time.

[–] Sphere@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

From the LW admin:

Honestly those ultra right-wingers are pretty bad but the ultra left-wingers are worse.

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The right wingers are people they can feel smugly superior to. A nazi can be dismissed out of hand and you don't really have to argue the point. You can just coast on not being obviously terrible.

A left winger will be a lot harder to dismiss out of hand. Same reason people get irrationally angry at vegans, climate change protestors and anti-discrimination activists. And you have to do ridiculous mental gymnastics to justify not improving things and that everything is fine actually.

Self crit is the worst nightmare of a Liberal.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm having trouble finding it in the Matrix room. Do you happen to have screenshots or preferably a timestamp we can scroll up to in the official room?

Please don't think it's because I don't trust you. But they seem to be doing a damn good job taking command of the narrative and I'm seeing if we can get an archive of public recorded interactions for the Hexbear vs Dotworld incident going. Something unbiased we can post that's independently verifiable and can allow general Lemmy users to form their own conclusions.

[–] LeZero@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And the redditors of lemmy.world will lap this shit up

"LW Admins must be Nazi lovers and transphobes" so that one is correct then

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

which group of admins is saying this, the lemmy.ml admins? or lemmy.world

why do they all keep choosing the same names ohnoes

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

"Oh sure they may be literal nazis openly spreading hate against trans people, but do we know their stance on NATO?"

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

"They're literally calling us Nazis because we want to do the thing the Nazis did to the people the Nazis did it to! To protect children!"

stupidpol

[–] temptest@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So what's the deal with exploding heads? I was familiar with it a year ago and dismissed it because it had nothing except thousands of news posts by the admin. And that wasn't just one glance, that's all it was for a while, and basically the only place that federated with it died before the big reddit exodus.

Did it actually get an audience of anti-vaxxers and become non-trivial?

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nazi instance

[–] temptest@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Was looking for something more helpful.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't understand? What more do you want? They have always been nazis who are smart enough to try and barely hide their "power level".

[–] temptest@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Like I said, I was familiar with the place a year ago, I realize it's a rightoid instance. At the time, it was essentially a single person. I'm wondering if that's no longer the case, and it's actually become relevant since then.

Hence the question: "Did it actually get an audience of anti-vaxxers and become non-trivial?"