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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Oklahoma’s state superintendent on Thursday directed all public schools to teach the Bible, including the Ten Commandments, in the latest conservative push testing the boundaries between religious instruction and public education.

The superintendent, Ryan Walters, who is a Republican, described the Bible as an “indispensable historical and cultural touchstone” and said it must be taught in certain grade levels.

The move comes a week after Louisiana became the first state to mandate that public schools display the Ten Commandments in every classroom, which was quickly challenged in court. The Oklahoma directive could also be challenged and is likely to provoke the latest tangle over the role of religion in public schools, an issue that has increasingly taken on national prominence.

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 89 points 2 weeks ago

Sure is a lot of church and state mixing together here.

[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

It really doesn’t matter anymore. We previously upheld the Constitution… previously is the keyword.

[-] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Yes and no. In world history you typically learn about the rise of different religions and their affect on the world. Knowing the 10 commandments could help teach this for its historical significance. At the same time teaching children the 10 commandments to indoctrinate them to a certain religion is definitely illegal. It's a hard thing to prove/disprove. A good teacher would teach the 10 commandments and similar beliefs in other major religions. Teachers are wildly underpaid and under supported in the the USA so "good teachers" are sometimes difficult to find.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

We all know what their intention is with this.

[-] TK420@lemmy.world 66 points 2 weeks ago

This will fall on deaf ears, but Oklahoma (and the rest of the south) needs to start voting these clowns out of office and onto the street.

[-] yggstyle@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

The majority of the southern states identity (not that part) has long since been reduced to a caricature of itself.

All being a southerner requires now is access to your divine guide: whatever the most recent pop country album is. It's just advertisement set to country tunes.

If anything I'd say the least free group in America is your typical 'country boy.'

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I know a shit ton of people in southern states and not a got dang one of them likes country. Or Western!

(now there is some overlap in the rockabilly and singer-songwriter types, and Nashville is where a ton of musician hotshots live, but straight top 40 radio Barf Grits country - nah.)

[-] yggstyle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, it's more a commentary on the whole current 'country' lifestyle. Texan? Buy all the things with a single star on it or you aren't Texas enough. Southern? Get that truck. Gotta lift it. Biggest tires you can find. It's all just the most degenerate capitalism with a dixie wrapper on it.

[-] Jaderick@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

At what point is that just acceptance of their shitty policies? Is that too passive of a stance?

[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago

I just don't see how this is so blatantly done. It should be a slam dunk in court. Churches don't pay taxes. Public schools are funded with taxes. Churches don't get to make the rules for public schools.

Let's flip it on it's head. I don't tithe to churches, but now all churches must serve pepperoni Eucharist and orange soda at service. Done. That's the rule, now, since it seems like anyone can just say some shit and it has to happen. Don't push me, or I'll make you fill the baptismal with lime jell-o.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

its becasue they can enact these polices very fast, but the wheels of the law are as fast as glaciers.

its also why grifters like the orange turd delay everything, making it even worse... to their advantage

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

They're banking on, and rightfully so, all of these shitty conservative judges that McConnell put in place to rule in their favor.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Next month:

This court finds that, without any question of interpretation, church and state, including publicly-funded education institutions, must be separated. We also find that, with the evidence considered, the teaching of the Bible does not violate the separation of church and state. Teaching of religious texts may, for educational purposes, be added to school curriculum when said curriculum does not mandate teachings containing subjects contrary to the interests of national security and economic prosperity.

[-] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Cue 382 additional lawsuits regarding every other religion that has ever existed getting their own representation. I'm going to need a full semester class on Zoroastrianism.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Ah, but you see, that's where the national security and economic prosperity conditions come in. Can't be having alternative teachings encouraging terrorism and communism, you know?

[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago

I just don't see how this is so blatantly done. It should be a slam dunk in court.

The fact that they're doing this openly should be a warning sign of where this country is currently, and is heading. They're doing this because they know the SC is compromised in their favor. All they have to do to get away with it is promise 5-6 judges a small gratuity.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

New bucket list item: jell-o made with holy water.

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not Catholic, but can't you just make regular jello, and then have the priest bless it?

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly no idea. My only knowledge of Catholicism comes from Dogma. But George Carlin did bless his golf clubs, so if that holds true for jello, then yeah. Lol

[-] notagoodboye@lemmy.today 23 points 2 weeks ago

I'd happily teach the bible, and I'd reap such a crop of athiests that they'd beg me to stop.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

So wait, he said to the mob “i’m gonna send out our daughters and maybe you’ll rape them and leave us alone?” And he was God’s point man there?

Bro. That’s fucked up, yo.

[-] littlewonder@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

My thoughts as well. They should require a religions of the world class. That'll really get the atheist agenda cookin'.

[-] some_guy 23 points 2 weeks ago

“But this country was founded on christofascism!”

- His constituents

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

We need to get rid of these trash humans. Put them doing something they are qualified to do. Like scooping poop in a park or something.

[-] SaintWacko@midwest.social 7 points 2 weeks ago

You think they'd ever do something that benefits someone beside themselves?

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Sure, I would so would most people. I do however know that most of these trash humans have undiagnosed, serious mental disorders. They know it to. That is why these types are against any type of therapy that isn't religious. Their religion only though.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, if you consider bigotry to be a mental health disorder, sure.

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I consider npd and/or bpd to be a mental health disorder. These types are more often than not are squarely in that area on mental health. You have to have certain mindset to think you can speak for everyone else on a subject. The bigotry is just a comorbidly.

[-] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago

Mom, can we have theocratic shithole?

No, we have theocratic shithole at home

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Odd, how Christian nationalists are more eager to put Christ into your children's schools than into their own Christianity.

[-] jared@mander.xyz 13 points 2 weeks ago

Learning about the bible helped make me an atheists.

[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Satanic Bible here we come!

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

WTAF is there to actually "teach" out of "the" bible, anyway?

Are they going to get around to the really X-rated bits? Because that's some serious groomer stuff.

[-] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Looks like that suit is made of two different fabrics. Time to stone him, wouldn't want to be a hypocrite.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

FFS Oklahoma what is with you and the schools

[-] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

If they are banning books, can we get the Bible banned?

[-] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I remember reading excerpts of the bible in one of my high school English classes a couple decades ago. It was basically part of a unit on fictional storytelling via religion. I'd be okay with that being the requirement.

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