cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17199847
@Snowden
The DNC is the only reason you're not currently enjoying a second-term Sanders and a sane Supreme Court.
“A presidential election is not a Grammy Award contest for the best singer or entertainer. It’s about who has the best policies that impact our lives,” Sanders said. “I’m going to do everything I can to see that Biden gets reelected.” - https://apnews.com/article/biden-debate-democrats-trump-trapped-c10c872f8436966096b45b6089adee8b
Considering Mitch McConnell blocked Obama's last supreme court nomination for over a year until Trump was in office, changed senate rules to help nominate Gorsuch, and fast-tracked ACB at the end of Trump's term, anyone blaming the DNC for the current state of the supreme court is being completely disingenuous.
anyone blaming the DNC for the current state of the supreme court is being completely disingenuous.
Except for the fact that the DNC helped to sabotage Bernie in the primary and Bernie Would Have Won, you have a point.
It's good Lemmy is keeping me up to date on Russia's stance on US politics.
Apparently Putin is getting all of his minions to encourage voter apathy.
Bernie would have won. Simple as.
While he got somewhere around 50% support among democrats that vote in primaries while running against Hilary Clinton, I don't think it's a given he could get centrists that vote in the general to vote for him.
I know it makes for a better narrative that Bernie could've been President, but that's all it is, a narrative.
But that's what Russian propaganda always is, isn't it? Just narratives, no actual facts.
We know. Doesn't matter until we have ranked choice or the like. Only one side gives us even a glimmer of a chance at that, so we have one choice.
You won't have ranked choice (or any other kind of vote) if you don't vote.
I support ranked choice, but I don't see how that's relevant here.
That is part of the problem...
Acknowledged. We circled the wagons around the wrong candidate twice in a row. Hillary Clinton was a well qualified candidate with likeability issues. Biden is a long time politician with equally good if not better qualifications than Clinton, he's just old. Bernie is older. Bernie aligns a hell of a lot closer to my beliefs than the other candidates out there. Bernie isn't in this race and has endorsed Biden, he's a wise man and usually is right on most topics. I'm going with Bernie on this one, vote Biden and start building the next generation of leaders, maybe that next leader is you.
DNC gets caught committing fraud in their own primary
"No obviously it's because not enough people voted for Bernie in the primary"
mmm yes I wonder why that is
Bernie was winning until the DNC called in the media assasination and started cooking numbers.
Remember when Chris Matthews lost his fucking mind and started claiming that a sanders presidency would mean executions in Central Park.
It is so frustrating sometimes talking about the history I lived through with people on this site. They will straight faced tell you how “no one beat Biden in the primaries this year” or “sanders has his chance to win but lost”
One candidate has the backing of the DNC and the corporate media which hammers nonstop about how voting for sanders is voting for socialist death squads and he is unelectable. I’m sure that had no impact on the voters though. Billy and Bonnie msnbc watcher probably saw that clip and fully understood the complex nuances of who owns msnbc, what their motivations are, and could understand why one of the 4 media conglomerates might be a bit concerned about their profit machine getting disrupted. They certainly wouldn’t take 24/7 coverage about how unelectable and dangerous he is to heart.
Can't give Obama enough credit for telling everyone to drop out and consolidate behind Biden!
Liberals seem have a much easier time forming coalitions against sucdems than they do fascists, wonder why.
It's amazing people don't see this for the propaganda it is coming from this user.
They really did think people were happy with how things had been going the last eight years.
The Obama-Trump voter clearly remains beyond the comprehension of a lot of people.
Protest no voting is the reason why Hillary isn't finishing up her second term, with a solid 8 years of climate action, still having Roe, likely much better budget, likely hundreds of thousands of lives saved from covid, not facing project 2025, and who knows what else. Thanks protest no voters.
"protest voting"
More Sanders supporters voted for Hillary than Hilary supporters voted for Obama. That tiny group that didn't was only an issue because Hillary's campaign was supremely overconfidant and had no ground game.
Sanders supporters, Hilary supporters, Obama supporters, like how many hoops do you have to jump through to divvy things up? I'm not even going to try to figure that out. This is really simple, I'm saying the left voters need to show up. How many are there? Who knows, because they never show up.
Hillary is the reason there were protest votes and general voter apathy.
She instructed her media cronies to promote Trump as the front runner, and also ran a rigged primary that stonewalled all attempts for competition to get a word in edgewise.
She knew how much of a threat Trump was, and yet she persisted in incompetently throwing what should have been the easiest Democratic win in history, with her fucking meddling.
It's a shame that the only way to destroy the Democratic party is to kill the Republican party first, but alas, business always comes before pleasure, doesn't it.
Hillary lined Trump up as her rival thinking he'd be an easy win, not realizing that she was still Hillary Clinton, the only one who could possibly lose against the least likable candidate in human history.
Hillary was family friends with Henry Kissinger.
Literally enough said.
it really should have been enough -_-
Her candidacy was america's biggest mistake since the republican party cheated Teddy Roosevelt out of their nomination and got us stuck with fucking woodrow wilson - the trump of the early 20th century.
Hillary should never have been on the primary ticket much less in the final race.
More than that. Protest voting only works if you're vote is important to them. If you aren't a representative part of a large group of reliable voters or donors. THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR VOTE. If courting you would help their margin of victory. But might alienate other more reliable voters or donors. THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR VOTE. If they don't really care about your vote. Then they don't really care about your protest. Then your protest is pointless and counterproductive.
As cruel and heartless as it sounds. Resources and bandwidth are always limited. They have to put their attention and efforts where they think they will get the best payout. Trying to please a broad swath of fickle unreliable left-leaning voters generally falls outside of the good uses of those limited resources.
Literally our passive leftist protest voting is meaningless to them. Even if they lose. Meaningless to them. They will spend millions of dollars analyzing trying to figure out why otherwise reliable group didn't vote for them. If they hear that they didn't get leftist vote, they won't bat an eye.
If we want their attention. If we want their concern. We need to ingratiate ourselves. And make ourselves indisposable to them. We need some primary them. We need to replace them with ourselves. Then they will pay attention. Then they will care. Before we do any of that though. Protest voting and putting the car before the horse and completely useless.
Hilary promised free ice cream and puppies for everyone. Protest no voters are the reason why I'm not enjoying a cone with my puppy new best friend right now.
And your 4th message to me is not worth trying to sort out.
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