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WASHINGTON (AP) — The new Sentinel nuclear warhead program is 81% over budget and is now estimated to cost nearly $141 billion, but the Pentagon is moving forward with the program, saying that given the threats from China and Russia it does not have a choice.

The Northrop Grumman Sentinel program is the first major upgrade to the ground-based component of the nuclear triad in more than 60 years and will replace the aging Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missile.

It involves not only building a new missile but the modernization of 450 silos across five states, their launch control centers, three nuclear missile bases and several other testing facilities.

The expansiveness of the program previously raised questions from government watchdogs as to whether the Pentagon could manage it all.

Military budget officials on Monday said when they set the program’s estimated costs their full knowledge of the modernization needed “was insufficient in hindsight to have a high-quality cost estimate,” Bill LaPlante, under secretary of defense for acquisition and sustainment, told reporters on a call.

The high cost overrun triggered what is known as a Nunn-McCurdy breach, which occurs if the cost of developing a new program increases by 25% or more. By statute, the under secretary of defense for acquisition then must **undertake a rigorous review of the program to determine if it should continue; otherwise the program must be terminated. **

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[-] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 85 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The old nukes are very, very old. MAD doesn't work if people question if your weapons actually still work. They need an update.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago

The way military contracts work doesn’t sound like it’s working anymore either

[-] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In what way? Them coming out more than expected? That isn't a new thing, in fact I would say it is the norm for basically all contracts, and not just military ones.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Maybe I'm overly cynical, but it being "only" 81% over budget makes me pleasantly surprised.

I mean, I would love for all that money to go to things that help people directly, instead of "big scary stick to keep other people from maybe hitting us with their sticks at some theoretical point in the future"

Buuuuut honestly when it comes to it's nuclear arsenal, I just assume all government contracts will eventually be 150%-200% over budget, with at least 3 committees assembled to investigate the expense.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

The article explains that the scope of work was so big it was very hard to make a real estimate.

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 5 points 1 month ago

I can imagine that they also probably didn't agree to use a contractor who made a more realistic estimation.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

A program this big likely has a lot of contractors. The guys designing new rockets aren't going to be the guys refurbishing the silos. Every so often the government does have projects that have "known unknowns" meaning they can't effectively be accounted for. Should they have run 1,000 smaller projects? Maybe, but they didn't and there's trade offs with that too.

[-] bitwaba@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Seems to be working for Russia. No one has bothered to call their bluffs in the last year over all the nuclear posturing.

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago

Well I mean it's not like there's hundreds of thousands of Americans with crippling food insecurity, no homes, no healthcare, inadequate wages, poisonous water, and/or gun violence; so the government is fine making sure it has the capacity it nearly exterminate the human race. Right guys?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." - Dwight Eisenhower

So as far as legislators are concerned, a win-win.

[-] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 month ago

What a fucking waste of our taxes

[-] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Other countries with nukes would simply bully us.

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[-] Xenny@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

I'll go against the grain as a liberal leftist and say 141 billion for upgrading our entire nuclear infrastructure in today's political climate seems like a deal.

[-] Podunk@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

No shit. Wasnt the f35 total lifetime costs supposed to exceed 2 trillion?

Less moving parts and associated personel in nuclear silos and a big bomb. Absolute steal.

That being said, war is bad. But nukes are M.A.D.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 10 points 1 month ago

I really hope they dont make enough to blow the whole planet again. Cold war quantity of nukes was absurd...unless Rodan shows up or something.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

This isn't the program to produce more warheads. It's the program to update the missile force silos and rockets. Which was really needed.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Do the old ones work on floppy disks? Or was that still way too advanced at the time.

[-] Infynis@midwest.social 7 points 1 month ago

The really big ones

If you want to know why they're overhauling them, John Oliver did an episode on it back in the first season or two of his show, which is now fully posted on YouTube

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[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Given the state of modern software design and corporate greed I'm not sure this will end well

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[-] Tygr@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

The 5 states are Montana, Wyoming, Nebraska, North Dakota and Colorado.

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 5 points 1 month ago

Military spending budget? Military spending goal

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