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[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The probability of interaction between a nuclei and a particle is called a "barn" - because its a bit like shooting the broad side of a barn.

Its a standard Sci unit, too, so real actual papers will use "megabarn" as a real unit of measure.

Its subunit is called a "shed", because physicists don't get out enough.

[-] DaGeek247@fedia.io 27 points 1 month ago

One of the key enzymes in electrical signaling in your brain is called Pikachurin

[-] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 22 points 1 month ago

As far as physics stuff goes, I think this is far preferable to using someone's name.

[-] mkwt@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Barns have physical dimensions of area, even though they are used to express probability distributions. So you can imagine "the broad side of a barn" as being so many square meters, but then scale it way way down to a particle physics equivalent, and you get the barn. Which apparently roughly represents "the broad side of a uranium nucleus".

[-] 2nd_Fermenter@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I actually like the barn as a unit of measure.

I am forever haunted by the decision decades ago to refer to two of the quarks as Top and Bottom. Maybe it was cute at the time. It did not age well.

[-] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 month ago

I think what annoys me most about "the "sonic hedgehog" example is that it has nothing to do with sound.

There are two wolves in my heart: A meme wolf, and a pedant wolf. Today they fight, and I know not which will win.

[-] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

There's a technique in science that's commonly used called blotting. It is basically exactly what it sounds like. You transfer a biological sample to a sheet of paper by pressing the paper into your sample.

The person who first developed blotting was a guy with the last name Southern, and he did it to transfer DNA into paper. So that became known as a Southern Blot.

Then someone else decided to try the same thing with RNA, and so they called it Northern Blot, because ofc North is opposite of South. Then someone else tried it with proteins, and that became known as a Western Blot. I think now there's even Northeastern Blots

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

I looked up the sonic hedgehog gene thing cause i was curious to see if that was true and sure enough: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_hedgehog_protein

Science is beautiful. Gotta learn fast.

[-] Icalasari@fedia.io 18 points 1 month ago

And there is a possible terminator for it called Robotnikinin

[-] IMALlama@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago
[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

I hear it was straight up called "Pikachu" but Nintendo threatened to sue

[-] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Science people have no idea the depths to which mathematicians and computer scientists will sink as we give silly names to hundreds of abstract concepts.

[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Well it makes it easier to learn and remember

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Currying has nothing to do with curry :(

[-] MissingInteger@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well, that wasn’t mathematicians memeing.
Currying is named after Haskell Curry

Shame, I would like to uncurry my curry sometimes → (vegetables, spices)…
(Okay, damn that does quite work since the curry is already the "output". I could uncurry the curry making process?)

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The best part about Sonic Hedgehog is that it actually has a cure, and that cure was called Robotnik

(What they used to call Eggman back in the day for all you youngin's that don't get it... He'll always be Robotnik to me, I"m sorry the name Eggman is just terrible, sounds like a character in a PSA trying to tell me about healthy breakfast choices with his wife Bacon Woman)

[-] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago

What do you mean he's no longer Robotnik? I thought Eggman was his nickname.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

Technically his name is Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik, but the name Robotnik is so rarely used (The last time a Sonic game even mentioned it beyond occasionally name dropping Mean Bean Machine was the first Sonic Riders game and that was only in text descriptions) that it might as well not exist.

Even in the comics which normally are allowed more leeway than the games, even characters who it would make more sense to call him Robotnik than Eggman (Like anyone in the Classic Era timeline, Fang especially.. or Dr. Starline in the Modern Timeline who worships the ground Robotnik walks on), the name Eggman is exclusively used.

The only media that treats Robotnik as his name and Eggman as a nickname is the movie, the same movie that wanted to call Sonic's World Mobius, but Sega wasn't having that. (Sega's a xenophobic company that fought hard to take away Sega of America's creative freedom and they're not about to let the name Mobius or the Freedom Fighters sneak in the back door.... to such an extreme that Mobius has to be called "Sonic's World" according to Sega Mandates)

[-] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago

Oh wow, was not aware of that. I haven't followed Sonic lore in a while (last games I played extensively were Sonic Mania and before then probably Sonic Advance 3), so thanks!

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

You should check out the fangame Dr. Robotnik's Ring Racers

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 2 points 1 month ago

For the Gaijins out there

[-] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

Wasn't Eggman the original name, changed to robotnik for the US version, since they didn't want to say you're fighting people, so they made them all robots instead?

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Eggman was the name SEGA came up with, but back in the earliest days SEGA worked closely with their American branch and formed a team called "STI" to develop Sonic. As the goal was to create a mascot that would appeal to American audiences, as that was the most profitable market and that demanded a new competitor as Nintendo was the only game in town in a literal sense.

The Japanese branch wanted a very specific story about an American woman who created Sonic The Hedgehog as a children's book character based on her late husband (a fighter pilot), only for Sonic to be real one day, apparently her husband reborn on "Christmas Island"... With Sonic having Eggman as his big rival, with the two more or less being Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd in their characterization. There was also the idea of Sonic running a band with characters called Sharps and Vector (who was later recycled for the game Knuckles Chaotix), but that was veto'd early on when the band wouldn't fit on the Sonic 1 cartridge.

America basically stood up and said "That story is weird and very little of that actually translates into a game format" and came up with a different plot where Sonic was from the planet Mobius and fought against the evil Dr. Robotnik who had conquered the planet, with Sonic having Freedom Fighter pals who helped him on the fight.

The Japanese portion of STI basically rebelled against the American portion for actually doing the job they were hired for (Americanizing their Sonic idea, which was designed to be Americanized to begin with), kicked them off of Sonic 2, and delegated the Americans to spinoffs like Sonic R, Sonic Spinball, Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine, and a game called Sonic Xtreme (that was ultimately cancelled because the Japanese

SEGA is a highly xenophobic company, and their history of spiting the American Branch extends far past the Sonic series (With one of the more infamous examples being SEGA demanding Eternal Champions' sequels, toy line, and cartoon be cancelled because the Virtua Fighter director was salty that Americans liked Eternal Champions better.... even though the reason was because Eternal Champions was a home console game at a time when Arcade Games like Virtua Fighter were losing favor...)

Robotnik was NEVER a robot (Outside of the early Archie Comics where they mistakenly labeled him as one a couple of times, but that's hardly the oddest thing in Early Archie) in any continuity, the reason the name Eggman was changed to Robotnik was due to the American Team warning the Japanese Team that the name "Eggman" would not be taken seriously as a villain name and would have to be changed. Dr. Robotnik was what they picked since "His thing is robots, not eggs."

It never had anything to do with censorship

The American Team was right as when Robotnik's name was changed to Eggman in the US, many outlets complained that the name was absolutely ridiculous and the fanbase largely refused to use that name until younger people who grew up with the Eggman name entered the fandom. Now even in fan circles the name Eggman is more common except for the one or two grey muzzles like myself who insist on Robotnik and that the dang kids need to stay off our lawns. (Even a recent and popular fan-game Dr. Robotnik's Ring Racers which has the name Robotnik in the title still calls him Eggman in the actual game)

The American Plot has largely vanished with occasional elements of it cropping up from time to time (With the Freedom Fighters now called Team Sonic and excluding all American Made additions like Sally Acorn and Bunnie Rabbot, Mobius now just called "Sonic's World", Sonic liking Chili Dogs, and the name Dr. Robotnik occasionally showing up in promotional material and the Live Action Films)

tl;dr - The name Eggman was rejected by the American Staff hired to do the Marketing because it wasn't a good villain name, then Sega of Japan insisted on putting the Eggman name back when the story was being told directly in actual games instead of being poorly parroted spinoff comic books and cartoons. Robotnik/Eggman himself was NEVER a robot, with the exception of Robo Robotnik/Eggman from Archie Sonic, but that's another continuity altogether.

(In the Archie Sonic continuity, they were adamant about never doing reboots until they were forced to, so... in order to justify the name and design change from the American Robotnik to the Japanese Eggman, they just wrote that Robotnik and Eggman were two different characters and that Eggman took over when Robotnik died. Spoilers: Around issue 50 or so, Robotnik is killed off for the rest of the book)

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago

Exactly what the last comment said. The OP sounds obnoxious to be around.

[-] Emmie@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Come on it’s just pretending, I don’t think anyone is serious on tumblr right

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

If so that's exactly the kind of humor NDs like me can never get 😶

[-] Emmie@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ahh I thought I am nd once but I am just insane

[-] uis@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

The unit of information is bit, 8 of them are called byte, but half of that is only nibble

[-] VulKendov@reddthat.com 9 points 1 month ago

They named a spider in Australia "Venomius tomhardyi"

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I was recently saying that I bet there's a dinosaur named after every cast member of Jurassic Park (off the top of my head I only knew there was a Crichtonosaurus). Just to make sure I looked it up and turns out I was correct in the worst possible way. There is a single dinosaur that's named after the whole cast. Tianchisaurus nedegoapeferima.
Neill, Dern, Goldblum, Attenborough, Peck, Ferrero, Richards, Mazzello

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

The M in WIMP stands for "Massive" actually.

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Also a competing candidate for dark matter is MACHOs

[-] uis@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

"Sonic hedgehog mutation" sounds scary as fuck

[-] mr_satan@monyet.cc 5 points 1 month ago

I fucking love these wacky names.

[-] spittingimage@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I think hedgehog genes got a mention in the movie Annihilation - but they called them 'HOX genes', possibly so we could take the scientific lingo seriously.

[-] match@pawb.social 9 points 1 month ago

HOX genes are the major genes that govern body plan development (what limbs you got and such). I know this because they feature prominently in furry scifi

[-] Hazzard@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Had a coworker today ask me to change a variable to be in "screaming snake case". So I google it, and sure enough, take your snake case (example_variable) and put it in All Caps (EXAMPLE_VARIABLE). And now your snake case is screaming. Had me giggling reading the PR feedback, I love stupid programmer naming conventions.

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