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[-] atocci@lemmy.world 116 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I will not have the Osprey's good name besmirched like this, I'll have you know these things fly around here all the time and only ~~one~~ two have ever crashed in the forest outside town!

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 19 points 3 months ago

Did... Did another Osprey crash as you wrote this comment?

[-] atocci@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No but I read Wikipedia's list of Osprey crashes...

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 3 months ago

I mean they fly all over Darwin Australia all the time, I've only heard of one going down here.

That was last year

well your mother went down on me last night, Trebek!

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 3 months ago
[-] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

osprey bros clutching their pearls.....if only they could reliably

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 24 points 3 months ago

Don't defend the osprey, it's not good for your health. It knows when you're lying and will retaliate in the only way a rotary aircraft with even more moving parts knows how.

[-] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Do you like that pole vaulting guy.....

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago

Yeah, Ospreys have a better crash record per flight hour than Blackhawks

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

How does the survivability compare?

[-] copd@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

We've got a black hawk down, we've got a black hawk down. Super 6-1 is down

[-] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago

It's Osprey libel. Slander is spoken, libel is written. Did the Veep make it to whatever?

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 44 points 3 months ago

Considering the level of protection the Secret Service provides, candidates are safer riding in an osprey than giving a speech.

[-] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 months ago

Ya know,I've had Ukraine on my mind so much, I'd forgotten about that? Thanks for the reminder, I was going to hire a few retired agents as security for a concert in Aurora.

[-] scrooge@infosec.pub 26 points 3 months ago
[-] nuke@sh.itjust.works 76 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Flying deathtrap. VP on an Osprey, we just witnessed an assassination attempt!

[-] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 45 points 3 months ago

It's a layered joke about an Osprey's safety record.

[-] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ignore them. They're just haters who can't handle the fact that despite it's youth, the Osprey is already a legendary platform.

Think of it like the A-10, except instead of repeatedly slaughtering friendly forces, it just regularly kills anyone dumb enough to ride in one, or pilot it.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 9 points 3 months ago

It's called a meritocracy!

[-] tilefan@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago

fudds like to call the osprey a death trap because they read some headlines early on and never bothered looking into the data. that's my understanding of it, as i have also not looked into the data.

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago

Unlike helicopters, they cannot autorotate, meaning if you lose power in any position other than forward cruise, you're fucked. Asymmetric power loss is also extra bad.

The design is inherently less safe than either a helicopter or a fixed wing aircraft.

[-] tilefan@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago

again, as someone who doesn't know much about this, aren't they only using the VTOL configuration during takeoff and landing? and, doesn't auto rotation require a certain amount of altitude? if both of those are true, then they would be in danger at the same time

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

They're flying with the engines facing at least partially upwards during takeoff and landing, even when taking off like an aircraft, meaning they're in trouble if they lose power, not just in a hover. The Japanese crash happened on final approach as they were slowing down, but still a few hundred feet in the air.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter_height%E2%80%93velocity_diagram

This is the combination of airspeed and height you cannot perform an autorotation from, the graph shown is worse than many other helicopters. Robinson aircraft can auto from zero airspeed at around 400 feet. It's all about having enough forward speed to flare off your rate of descent and land with only forward airspeed, you could successfully flare at head height and enough airspeed over good ground.

Other tiltrotors are capable of autorotation.

[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

I like that the chart there has a little red sliver to indicate that it is, in fact, a bad idea to fly very fast at ground level.

[-] atocci@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Anecdotal, but I almost exclusively see them flying in VTOL configuration

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago

That's at least partly because that's the easiest time to photograph an aircraft.

[-] atocci@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I don't mean in photos, they just fly around town in VTOL configuration all the time. Hardly ever see them at full tilt.

[-] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 months ago
[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago

I was watching a video about the crash in Japan just last night, actually.

Basically, they dismissed multiple warnings, and should have landed the aircraft much sooner than they did. They were on final approach when the failure happened, meaning if they'd landed a few minutes sooner, they would have been fine.

[-] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

There's a thing on the stuffy r/credibledefense that might change your mind on pilot error. TL;DR the flight manuals and warning design failed the pilots and the checklists didn't communicate the urgency

[-] deuleb_biezelbob@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Half Life prepared me for this

[-] WanakaTree@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Ah cool, I was at the park with my kid Tuesday evening and saw this fly over us. We figured Kamala was in there but nice to have confirmation

this post was submitted on 21 Aug 2024
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